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We have to go back, Kate!
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Looks like they're having fun!
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When America worked, those low income kids would also become millionaires who innovated - who invented America's world class products. Or who became world class champions. Today, the party of hate says one must be born with a silver spoon in the mouth and an extremist politician, bought and paid for, in the pocket.
Wacko extremists routinely disparage what has always been the source of American wealth and innovation. Immigrants, Irish, gays, Italians, lesbians, Jews, atheists, blacks, Hispanics, women who practice family planning, and veterans. Hate them all. Which party left Iraqi veterans lying in a bed of their own urine in Walter Reed? Power comes from inventing bogeymen to hate. A Republican party autopsy said: Quote:
Instead, the report inspired internal feuding. The report's recommendations even describes reasons for their problems - ie Tea party rhetoric. The report cites what is found in Adak's attitudes and posts. The Economist said on 23 March 2013, Quote:
This time hate of basketball players. He forgets that plywood exists due to George Jr's intelligence and extremist lies generated by his administration and Project for a New American Century. Extremists also said we want America to fail. Extremists will not even apologize for that. Last edited by tw; 04-06-2013 at 09:09 PM. |
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You don't know what a failure is until you've seen a real monetary crisis. We shouldn't be helping the poor with hand outs. We need to help the poor with better opportunities and a hand UP. Hand outs without jobs, leads to more poor people, relying on the gov't for the necessities of life. More jobs and a more limited federal gov't that isn't saddling our kids with an ever increasing debt, is what we need. It isn't a battle between political parties, as much as it is a battle between liberal hands on your throat, or conservative hands from the gov't. The liberals want to control every aspect of your life. The conservatives want YOU to control more aspects of your life. That's called freedom, and we could certainly use a bit more of it. Last edited by Adak; 04-07-2013 at 08:08 AM. |
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Senator Joseph McCarthy advocated hate for more power. Famous racists (ie Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms) changed parties to where hate was more acceptable. Why do you forget history? Many will conveniently ignore reality to entertain there deceptions and the resulting hate. The report says Quote:
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Which party said they wanted America to fail? The party of hate. Same technique was used by the Nazi party to achieve power. Those 'evil Muslims' will open a mosque in lower Manhattan. The party of hate had plenty to say about that. |
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We have very similar views on several hot issues. BUT The vast majority of American people DO NOT want freedom. They DO NOT want independence. They DO NOT want control over their own lives. They DO NOT want to make meaningful choices for their lives. They DO NOT want to take any risk. They want to be taken care of. Until the day they die. And then they want that care to watch over their survivors until the day THEY die. They want BIG GOVERNMENT to restrain YOU all the while it's caring for them. They want MORE government, not less. Government is the answer to all problems in a little person's life. MORE-MORE-MORE. Can't get enough of it. Doesn't matter if they are Rs or Ds, it's the same. MORE BIGGER government. It's always the answer regardless as to who is in the White House or Congress. One group may cut gov't here and then add 10x as much over there. The net effect is the same. MORE GOVERNMENT. MORE CONTROL. And the vast majority American people want it that way, Rs or Ds or Is. BIG NANNY STATE GOVERNMENT is the ONLY answer, always. And that's why I've moved away, though I'm guessing not forever AND it's why I'm seeing younger and younger westerners here in larger numbers on the islands. I and they want to be free of HUGE intrusive government and be left to enjoy a quite life. Free from gov't AND cold winters and expensive beer. ![]() So, yes...we, you and I could use a bit more freedom. But for the vast majority of Americans....it's LONG dead. HUGE INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT is the only answer. Cradle to grave, baby. All the way. That's a deep disappointment to me personally but it's reality. |
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It can and will change though. I remember - thinking about Margaret Thatcher in the UK - that the UK was then known as "the sick man of Europe", because they had killed their private sector with decades of socialist nonsense.
Taxes on some parts of their society got up to as high as 94% - can you IMAGINE. When MT was done, taxes had been lowered to less than 45%, despite fighting the war with the IRA (which nearly killed her), and the war with Argentina over the Falklands Is. So it CAN be done, and when the US finds itself, like all the socialist countries, becoming poorer and poorer, as a whole - then things will start changing. It's so hard though, when problems like health care are present - because every single aspect of health care is a rampant rip off - from malpractice suits with stupid juries that award millions of dollars to patients, not because there's been malpractice - but because they let their sympathy get in the place of common sense. When a patient is warned to do something IN WRITING, TWICE, by two different doctors, and refuses - and then suffers the consequence - it's insane to have a jury force the doctors to pay millions of dollars. But that's commonly seen. The trial lawyers love it, of course! Philippines are the new digs? Not the Southern Islands, I hope? |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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This will dog his career for ever.
You weren't expecting me to go there, were you? ![]()
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To be fair, it was an old site from 2008, but the irony is pretty rich.
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Ouch ! That's embarrassing, and will surely draw the attention of the media.
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He *should be* embarrassed!
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is only 1 among literally hundreds of bullet-point campaign issues that were also deleted from the 2007 web site. Yes, it's embarrassing and quite believable, as presented in the link, but still could be just an gigantic leap of paranoia and/or political spin. As I followed things back through link after link, my thoughts went in the direction that it seems more like just a routine update of a (2007) pre-election web site. Or... it would be a pretty drastic step just to delete one, albeit very important, "political promise" from public view. I have not (yet) found any indication elsewhere in the current White House web site website that even hints that Obama's "Whistleblower Protection" policy is being modified or replaced. But... if Obama has, in fact, changed his policy it would be very sad, and I would be inclined to attribute it to a pervasive "NOT ON MY WATCH" flaw in the rationale of many people in leadership positions. |
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