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Old 06-21-2010, 02:27 PM   #1
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:43 PM   #2
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:47 PM   #3
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:21 PM   #4
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This just brings up a very good point. People should just flat-out quit stalking chat. If you aren't there to participate, what are you there for? It's creepy.

I love how this subject conveniently diverges from the original point being made.

Besides- I think people here are pretty open about it when they don't like your company (something to like about this board?) . You being, anyone. Especially Jim. Are we saying Jim is two faced? I feel he is pretty straight-forward about his likes/dislikes when it comes to others, which is why we have this very thread to post this in in the first place.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:32 PM   #5
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From the perspective of one of the bad guys, I thought there were many valid and constructive criticisms, but also many questions conveniently ignored.

IMO, if one is assuming the role of facilitator, those questions should have been addressed.

I also got a good laugh out of the strongly urged suggestion to be more "real" and at the same time, the statement that it really wouldnt make a difference.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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which questions in particular did you want answers for?

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that's not what I was suggesting. i was saying that I don't demand to KNOW you. Just that if you want to be seen as a human, you should appear as one. It is apparently a difficult concept for some to grasp.

Look around the board for examples. People that share their flaws and strengths, fears and pride.....stories and boasts and jokes..... you make allowances for that stuff.... That's how people interact.

Those that argue in ideals and logic and facts..... they can only stand on those legs....and if your basic underlying premise is contrary to someone else, you'll never find any common ground with them.

Redux, DO YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY OR NOT?
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:45 PM   #7
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which questions in particular did you want answers for?



that's not what I was suggesting. i was saying that I don't demand to KNOW you. Just that if you want to be seen as a human, you should appear as one. It is apparently a difficult concept for some to grasp.

Look around the board for examples. People that share their flaws and strengths, fears and pride.....stories and boasts and jokes..... you make allowances for that stuff.... That's how people interact.

Those that argue in ideals and logic and facts..... they can only stand on those legs....and if your basic underlying premise is contrary to someone else, you'll never find any common ground with them.

Redux, DO YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY OR NOT?
Jim....my point that I, or anyone, should be able to be a part of the community in the manner in which we chose....not by some standard that you or anyone else imposes....(and, for example, points not be awarded or deducted based on your personal feelings for someone).

IMO, your biases came through in the end.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:01 PM   #8
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Well, yes, of course you define the manner of your involvement. but you're fooling yourself if you think that people will be fair minded and treat you like everyone else if you won't even divulge your gender.

Life is a popularity contest at times. that's just a hard goddamn fact of life. People's perceptions are colored by their opinion of the presenter of information.

You are a member of this community. you don't need me to tell you that. but you do get my point, right?
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:05 PM   #9
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Well, yes, of course you define the manner of your involvement. but you're fooling yourself if you think that people will be fair minded and treat you like everyone else if you won't even divulge your gender.

Life is a popularity contest at times. that's just a hard goddamn fact of life. People's perceptions are colored by their opinion of the presenter of information.

You are a member of this community. you don't need me to tell you that. but you do get my point, right?
Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:21 PM   #10
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Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.
whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:26 PM   #11
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whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?
I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:29 PM   #12
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I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

I think that's pretty fair. But there is a little bad blood there. It was a very particular situation that led to that bad blood.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:56 PM   #13
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I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

ok, not to nitpick here, but I just re read all 3 of V's posts. I don't see any questions. Only one ? and that was him talking to monster.

so...if not his....were there unanswered questions? or not?

the only reason I'm pressing here is because you are claiming that I'm being un-objective..... and If this is why, I'd like to address it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:23 PM   #14
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Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.

He wasn't suggesting BigV had been pushed here by Spexx. It was more to do with a big storm that blew through here a while ago and damn near exploded the cellar :P BigV pretty much buggered off after that along with the new member who caused the storm, presumably off to the board from which said storm had arrived.



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I'm sorry you and Dana feel that way. Not surprised, though.

Does that mean me and Sundae are in the tree house club?
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:53 PM   #15
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He wasn't suggesting BigV had been pushed here by Spexx. It was more to do with a big storm that blew through here a while ago and damn near exploded the cellar :P BigV pretty much buggered off after that along with the new member who caused the storm, presumably off to the board from which said storm had arrived.
I don't think BigV ever left to go to anywhere. I believe, that like myself, he simply found it impossible to post in this place without a number of regular dwellars jumping all over his posts and accusing him of particular biases. There are plenty of semi regular posters who don't post much because some people around here make it unpleasant to be here in any real way.

To those people, and obviously you know who you are, I suggest you'd find things a lot more interesting around here if the environment fostered newcommers who actually might feel welcome.

As to the whole incident with PD. Well, I have some pretty strong opinions on who was really in the wrong there, but they're not popular opinions with the people who seem to think they run this place, so I'm not even going to bother.

Oh yeah, and before you decide to have your usual little dog pile, let me get in first.

Just fuck off. You suck and I don't like you, so nothing you have to say matters to me.
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