Self Policing Militia Summons

[lumberjim]

Well, yes, of course you define the manner of your involvement. but you're fooling yourself if you think that people will be fair minded and treat you like everyone else if you won't even divulge your gender.

Life is a popularity contest at times. that's just a hard goddamn fact of life. People's perceptions are colored by their opinion of the presenter of information.

You are a member of this community. you don't need me to tell you that. but you do get my point, right?

Originally Posted by lumberjim

Well, yes, of course you define the manner of your involvement. but you're fooling yourself if you think that people will be fair minded and treat you like everyone else if you won't even divulge your gender.

Life is a popularity contest at times. that's just a hard goddamn fact of life. People's perceptions are colored by their opinion of the presenter of information.

You are a member of this community. you don't need me to tell you that. but you do get my point, right?

Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Redux

Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.

whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?

Originally Posted by lumberjim

whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?

I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Redux

I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

I think that's pretty fair. But there is a little bad blood there. It was a very particular situation that led to that bad blood.

Originally Posted by DanaC

I think that's pretty fair. But there is a little bad blood there. It was a very particular situation that led to that bad blood.

Dana, thanks for the clarification. If that is the case, I apologize.

I really dont want to nitpick other posts or comments...but from my perspective, the objectivity as a facilitator was lost at some point .

And, contrary to Jim's assertion/suggestion from yesterday, I am not bitter, just slightly befuddled (by standards of being "real) and bemused (by some of the childish insults and personal characterizations directed my way) that went unchecked.

[jinx]

I am not bitter, just slightly befuddled (by standards of being "real) and bemused (by some of the personal insults and characterizations directed my way) that went unchecked.

You could be specific and direct here, and perhaps get these things cleared up.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Redux

I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

ok, not to nitpick here, but I just re read all 3 of V's posts. I don't see any questions. Only one ? and that was him talking to monster.

so...if not his....were there unanswered questions? or not?

the only reason I'm pressing here is because you are claiming that I'm being un-objective..... and If this is why, I'd like to address it.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

ok, not to nitpick here, but I just re read all 3 of V's posts. I don't see any questions. Only one ? and that was him talking to monster.

so...if not his....were there unanswered questions? or not?

the only reason I'm pressing here is because you are claiming that I'm being un-objective..... and If this is why, I'd like to address it.

Jim...I said I thought you were well-intentioned and objective for the most part. I was referring to the link from BigV, but you are correct, it was not in the form of a question....and putting, V aside, HM's follow up post, which raised the question of objectivity.

Thanks for your effort. I mean it. For the most part, it was helpful and constructive...., despite the few laughable (IM0) posts by a few.

If I were UT, I would close the discussion and tell us all to move on.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Redux

Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.

He wasn't suggesting BigV had been pushed here by Spexx. It was more to do with a big storm that blew through here a while ago and damn near exploded the cellar :P BigV pretty much buggered off after that along with the new member who caused the storm, presumably off to the board from which said storm had arrived.

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'm sorry you and Dana feel that way. Not surprised, though.

Does that mean me and Sundae are in the tree house club?

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by DanaC

He wasn't suggesting BigV had been pushed here by Spexx. It was more to do with a big storm that blew through here a while ago and damn near exploded the cellar :P BigV pretty much buggered off after that along with the new member who caused the storm, presumably off to the board from which said storm had arrived.

I don't think BigV ever left to go to anywhere. I believe, that like myself, he simply found it impossible to post in this place without a number of regular dwellars jumping all over his posts and accusing him of particular biases. There are plenty of semi regular posters who don't post much because some people around here make it unpleasant to be here in any real way.

To those people, and obviously you know who you are, I suggest you'd find things a lot more interesting around here if the environment fostered newcommers who actually might feel welcome.

As to the whole incident with PD. Well, I have some pretty strong opinions on who was really in the wrong there, but they're not popular opinions with the people who seem to think they run this place, so I'm not even going to bother.

Oh yeah, and before you decide to have your usual little dog pile, let me get in first.

Just fuck off. You suck and I don't like you, so nothing you have to say matters to me.