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Yes, and I've politely declined your sage advice on many occasions as well. (You know, the kind where you tell us all we have to be fair...) Please don't interrupt me when I'm talking to lookout about you.
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I was actually just trying to discuss the issue, but I'll walk away right now. Some people are just wound a little too tight.
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But perhaps after you have finished, you can point out Merc's content that HAS contributed to the discussion and we can expound upon it. |
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What more do you think should be done? Do you think a law suit is in order as many outsiders are demanding? |
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If the principal apologized and acknowledged he handled it incorrectly then that should be the end of it for that school district and the kids involved. There is no reason to sue over an issue that is already resolved.
As with most things in the cellar the mistake at the school was just a source of topic for discussion. The discussion is both more(because it is about ideas and beliefs) and less (because nothing we spew onto the internet effects anything) important than the event. I personally find it bizarre that anyone actually thinks the principal's actions were justified and that is what I entered this thread to discuss.
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Lookout, do you ever feel that threads on the cellar resemble life several yards to the side of the soccer field?
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So if the school can though the students were acting as a gang the school was well with in its right to make them change their shirts. Furthermore, intent is very important to the American Justice system legally known as Mens Rea, and to incite imminent lawless action is the a satute for curbing free speech in greater world (Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969)). But this is a school. I remember high school; you were guilty till proven innocent, speech and expression where curb, you had no expected right to privacy .
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We have uniform codes in every school I know about over here. These sorts of things just aren't issues due to this, which I think is a good thing.
With regard to flags on clothing, there's heaps of items you can get with aussie flags or portions of it printed on them. In fact, I just bought a pair of board shorts for Aden which look like they've been made out of a flag - although of course it's just material printed to look like one. I don't have a problem with it and in fact think it's a nice show of patriotism.
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If wearing a flag is ok any other day then it should be ok on that day as well. I mean we are trying to teach cultural tolerance but ..... http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=654873&postcount=124 |
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They do here too, as a matter of fact what they were wearing was perfectly fine with the school the day before... and any other day.
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When I said uniform codes, I meant that all the kids wear exactly the same thing (except for underwear of course).
Yeah yeah...socialist nanny state I know, but it does help in some ways.
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Oh, uniforms. Nope, the redheads don't want to wear red. Green makes my ass look fat. Black is depressing. etc, etc, etc...
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It's true, some uniforms are horrible, but when there's no other choice, kids just stop arguing. It helps that it's across the board nationwide, so it doesn't matter what school you go to, there's going to be a uniform. Public or private.
There are a couple of exceptions, but they're usually vocational schools and are mostly for senior kids.
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Lil Lookout's school has uniforms as do a lot of the schools in AZ. Nothing wrong with that, but the principal's issue wasn't with dress code it was with the american flag being displayed on 5 May 10.
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One school in my city has a strict uniform code because of gangs. It isn't so much of a problem at the school anymore but the code still stands. The code is you can only wear plain green or blue polo shirts and khaki pants. That's it. I don't even think they can wear make up or jewelry if I remember right. All the other public schools here have a lenient code like no showing mid-drifts,or whatever the issue of the school is and what they do not want to see. |
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