Judge orders couple not to have children

[lumberjim]

i was thinking the same....and i see it first hand.....

here, let me look through the deals in my office right now and i ll give you some REAL stats:

1..bad credit customer...$194 in revolving debt

2.good credit cust : Revolving $14,628

3. fair credit : $1742

4. excellent credit: 13,369

5. good credit: $5567

6. good credit: $1677

7. super excellent credit : $0

8. good credit since a bankrupcy in '01: $2324

9. really bad credit: $7462

10. decent credit: $43,538



I have seen as much as 125,000 in credit cards

gawd.

[xoxoxoBruce]

A couple years back I read that something like 65% of Americans payoff their credit cards every month. I was astounded by that large a percentage. Like glatt, I do, but listening to conversations in the real world, I was under the impression I was the exception.
Do you have a handle on that Jim?

[ladysycamore]

Originally posted by Pie

...And if the majority of Americans are incapable of exercising enough self-control to engage in proper "family planning," then how the hell will they ever be able to engage in proper parenting of said family?

Precisely.

If they can't be bothered to remember to take their pill every morning, or use that condom+spermicide, how will they plan a family budget and stick to it? (Oh, that's right, the average American owes $2,900 in credit card debt.)

Yup.

Irresponsibility leads to children. Irresponsibility leads to bad parenting.

It's a vicious cycle.

- Pie

That seems to never end.

[Lady Sidhe]

CREDIT CARDS ARE DE DEBIL!!

I refuse to have one. I had one once, and my ex husband got a hold of it and ran up my credit. My credit had been perfect til then. Fucker.



Sidhe

[depmats]

Originally posted by lumberjim
i was thinking the same....and i see it first hand.....

here, let me look through the deals in my office right now and i ll give you some REAL stats:

1..bad credit customer...$194 in revolving debt

2.good credit cust : Revolving $14,628

3. fair credit : $1742

4. excellent credit: 13,369

5. good credit: $5567

6. good credit: $1677

7. super excellent credit : $0

8. good credit since a bankrupcy in '01: $2324

9. really bad credit: $7462

10. decent credit: $43,538



I have seen as much as 125,000 in credit cards

gawd.

I had a guy once who had $158,000 in revolving. No cars, boats, houses, rv's, etc. included in that number. That came to nearly a full million$$$$$$. He didn't think it was any big deal. Poor SOB barely made $200k/year but thought $158k in revolving was no big deal. He wouldn't consolidate so needless to say I didn't do his loan.

[Lady Sidhe]

For LUMBERJIM:

The story goes that a local car dealer, who was known to have taken advantage of some people in the community, wanted to purchase a cow from a farmer. So the farmer priced the cow in a way the car dealer could understand:

BASIC COW: $499.95
Shipping and Handling: $35.75
Extra Stomach: $79.25
Two-tone Exterior: $142.50
Deluxe Dual Horns: $59.25
Automatic Fly Swatter: $74.55
Four-spigot/high output drain system: $149.20
Automatic fertilizer attachment: $339.40
Farmer's suggested list price: $1,379.85
Additional Dealer Adjustments: $300.00
TOTAL LIST PRICE (including options): $1,679.85



I saw this in the reader's digest and thought of you *grins* I figured you'd appreciate it.


Sidhe

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by Pie
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To drag in another issue, how about people's religious convictions? Some people believe in the fundamental immorality of contraception. Should they have those views overridden by the state?

- Pie

Well, I look at it this way: if God wants you to have a kid, birth control isn't going to stop it. If these fundies have such faith in the power of God, then they shouldn't think that a birth control pill would be able to stop Him. Therefore, their refusal to take birth control demonstrates a profound lack of faith, and they're all going to hell.

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by sycamore
You can get the morning after pill here, but currently only with a prescription (the FDA rejected OTC sales last week).

At the free health clinics, you get a year's worth of contraception, plus the morning-after pill, free, after you've had your gyn exam.