The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Philosophy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Philosophy Religions, schools of thought, matters of importance and navel-gazing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-14-2017, 09:20 PM   #1
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Missing from that list are many discount brand gasolines including those that have the most and busiest pumps (ie Sheets, Wawa).

Those 'acceptable' gasolines have been known for decades. For example, in 1980, BMW only listed Chevron, Amoco. Exxon, Shell, and Texaco as acceptable. That was a national survey. Sunoco was a regional brand. It may have also belonged on that list over 35 years ago. But then I did not actually test Sunoco - so I cannot say with certainty.

In order to maximize their EPA mileage, GM required testing only with Chevron. Ever wonder why so many GM owners had trouble duplicating those EPA numbers? Discount gas.

What happens when using just one tank of a discount brand? My Accords would drop from 32 MPG to about 24 or 25 MPG. In some cases, it took up to four tanks of the good stuff to undo that damage.

At current prices, add maybe 24 cents per gallon to their posted price. That is the real price of discount gasoline.

Last edited by tw; 05-14-2017 at 09:25 PM.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2017, 10:14 PM   #2
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
You think those small brands can own their own refinery? They rely on independent refineries which are increasing as the major brands are getting out of the refining end of the business. Some of the larger independent brand stations may be able to contract their own blends of additive, but Joe's Gasateria takes what is available, which is the same gas the major brand station's get. Joe can sell cheaper because he's not paying rent to the majors for his location. And as I mentioned before, he has no legal obligation to post a sign who made it.
I've used one tank of WAWA regular in my pickup that ran like shit. I've also use Sheets premium in my ElCamino with no problem. I was forced to use WAWA premium in the SSR with no problem. The thing is you don't know where it came from but that doesn't mean it's bad.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 09:25 AM   #3
glatt
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 27,717
Quote:
Originally Posted by tw View Post
What happens when using just one tank of a discount brand? My Accords would drop from 32 MPG to about 24 or 25 MPG.
For the record. This is the first post in this thread in which you actually say what your point is.

Gallon per mile is a different thing than gallon per dollar.
glatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 04:10 PM   #4
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
Gallon per mile is a different thing than gallon per dollar.
Dollar per mile says everything. When gasoline reduces MPG to 25, then Dollar per miles increases significantly. I made it easy for the arithmetically challenged. Price at discount stations is something less than 25 cents more per gallon.

Amazing how some have difficulty when numbers are required or included.

Bruce - all gasolines come from the same refineries. Everything posted is based in that reality. Stop foolishly assuming that proves something. All gasolines come from a same refinery. Delivered by same pipelines. And are massively different as demonstrated by UT's Top Tier explanation. Learn why that is true by discovering fallacies in your speculations.

For others who would learn - not argue. Discount gasolines are some of the most expensive. Price on a pump does not really reflect actual cost.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 05:27 PM   #5
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Quote:
Originally Posted by tw View Post
Bruce - all gasolines come from the same refineries. Everything posted is based in that reality. Stop foolishly assuming that proves something. All gasolines come from a same refinery. Delivered by same pipelines. And are massively different as demonstrated by UT's Top Tier explanation. Learn why that is true by discovering fallacies in your speculations.
If you had been paying attention you would know it was I who explained top tier gasolines.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 05:43 PM   #6
Undertoad
Radical Centrist
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cottage of Prussia
Posts: 31,423
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
If you had been paying attention you would know it was I who explained top tier gasolines.
I missed it, but I was on a break.
Undertoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 10:11 PM   #7
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
If you had been paying attention you would know it was I who explained top tier gasolines.
UT provided facts like an adult. He is credited.

Eventually you will finally grasp reality if it is posted enough times. Eve n the most obstinate eventually concede to reality. Discount gasolines tend to be the most expensive gasolines.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 11:59 PM   #8
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
Fuck you, you didn't even read my post you fraud.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 09:28 AM   #9
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
Fuck you, you didn't even read my post you fraud.
UT presented facts without silly emotions. He deserves credit. Your use of profanity only confirms a highly emotional state - and why you deny reality. Discount gasoline is tends to be the most expensive. Denials come from emotional (childish) authors. When you choose to restore an adult attitude, then your conclusions will be considered. Emotional denials created a bogus conclusion.

Reality is demonstrated by facts. Discount gasoline is a most expensive gasoline. Add maybe 24 cents to a posted price
for discount gasoline. A number that would be higher depending on how many tanks of good gasoline are required to repair that damage.

Amazing how some have disturbing meltdowns over a fact well understood for almost 40 years.

It says so much about why some people do that.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.