I, ALONE KNOW THE TRUTH OF POLITICS !!

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

WTF are you talking about, that's not an emotion, that's a lesson learned about consequences.

Some great men in history ignored consequences because logic dictated a unemotional response. Yes, some consequences make logical sense. Because the logical see logic in that conclusion. But an adult who is a child only 'fears' consequences.

Not everyone's response to consequences is due to emotion alone. Nobody is unemotional. He just tempers (controls) emotions with logical thought. Or may direct emotion for a logical conclusion. Emotion is a tool - just like money and propaganda. Logic is routinely in charge - when a adult is an adult.

A child only sees (fears) consequences as something painful - to be avoided. He does not know why. He does not have the prefrontal cortex to control those emotions. He only knows from a resulting pain. That is a decision entirely based in emotion.

Does a four year old follow rules because he knows why they exist? Of course not. He does that because a child only understands emotions. Resulting pain is call consequences. His response is an emotional fear of pain.

BTW, why start with WTF? An adult does not waste bandwidth with their emotions. Who use profanity most often? Another indication of an adult who is so more emotional. And so the question: can you grasp a well defined concept from psychology? Or do you always start by entertaining your emotions; start with a WTF response?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

Nobody is unemotional. He just tempers (controls) emotions with logical thought. Or may direct emotion for a logical conclusion. Emotion is a tool - just like money and propaganda. Logic is routinely in charge - when a adult is an adult.

A child only sees (fears) consequences as something painful - to be avoided. He does not know why. He does not have the prefrontal cortex to control those emotions. He only knows from a resulting pain. That is a decision entirely based in emotion.

No no no, consequences are not necessarily painful, they could be, minimal, embarrassing, costly, or death, and must be evaluated before taking action. You're thinking like a four year old.

Does a four year old follow rules because he knows why they exist? Of course not. He does that because a child only understands emotions. Resulting pain is call consequences. His response is an emotional fear of pain.

Your father must have been fond of corporal punishment, as you're still stuck in a four year old's definition of consequences.

BTW, why start with WTF? An adult does not waste bandwidth with their emotions. Who use profanity most often? Another indication of an adult who is so more emotional. And so the question: can you grasp a well defined concept from psychology? Or do you always start by entertaining your emotions; start with a WTF response?

You're starting that shit again? When will you learn you'll get no fucking traction or respect with that Parson Brown act here. Grow up!

[henry quirk]

"...you are a team player working first and foremost for the safety, protection, and cooperation of all else on your team."

Nope.

As I say, I drive safely for 'me', to preserve 'my' life, 'my' property...that the other folks on the road benefit is, to me, incidental.

Now, you gonna take me at my word, or, are you gonna keep on interpreting 'me' through the filters of your own agenda?

[tw]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Now, you gonna take me at my word, or, are you gonna keep on interpreting 'me' through the filters of your own agenda?

I never take anyone's word that also does not come with reasons why and perspective. Making blanket statements without even one reason to say "why it is true or exists" demonstrated a child's perspective of the world. Too much "Me me me" attitude is observed. It implies a rather irresponsible attitude only tempered by consequences and the resulting emotions.

An adult does not do something only because it is the law. An adult does beyond what laws requires because it is responsible - a logical decision.

Too many denials only because you don't like it. A classic example of a conclusion only based in emotions.

A child only drives cooperatively because consequences are severe. Fast and Furious movies try to teach these adult children that consequences do not exist. These adults, who are clearly children, are often seen on highways. But rarely when a cop car is observed. Only consequences (fear of that cop) matter. Responsibility is less understood by adults who are still children.

[henry quirk]

Let me get this straight...

If I drive safe cuz I'm lookin' to be a teamplayer, then I'm an adult.

...but...

If I drive safely cuz I wanna preserve 'me', then I'm a child.

Okay.

What I draw from that...

'Selfless' cooperation is mature and 'right'.

...and...

Self-interest is immature and 'wrong'.

Well, break out your little book, TW, and mark me down as 'wrong-headed kid' cuz I want nuthin' to do with your conception of the altruistic, selfless, communitarian, 'moderate' adult.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No no no, consequences are not necessarily painful, they could be, minimal, embarrassing, costly, or death, and must be evaluated before taking action. You're thinking like a four year old.

To a child, consequences without pain are routinely ignored. Logic does not exist in a child. Everything is about emotions.

Painful to a child is an adult who withholds affection or approval. Even an adult's facial expressions can be a painful consequence. (You must have seen that in videos demonstrating child psychology -right?) That consequence (even a facial expression) is painful to a child.

A child's world is fully about emotion. Emotion is the only 'how' a children learns what is right or wrong. Intelligent parents never use corporal punishment - as you assumed they must for reasons that are scary. Corporal punishment is used by parents who do not understand this - who therefore are abusive.

Why do you have so much trouble with well understood psychology? Why do you foolishly assume only corporal punishment works? A potential child beater would not understand any of this; must only believe "Use the whip; save the child." Apparently all this is new? Apparently you never learned consequences are best used without any physical action. Because a child's world is only about emotions.

Emotions also easily manipulate (brainwash) adults who are still children. Only propaganda and soundbytes will manipulate adults who are still children.