Stand up or GTFO.

[Happy Monkey]

Again, it is silliness to bring up the military in any way in response to his protest. The military has nothing to do with it. Children in schools will stand for the anthem as well, but he's not attacking children.

And all that aside, a football stadium isn't the US military's version of Mecca. The military doesn't own football, any more than they own the anthem.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Again, it is silliness to bring up the military in any way in response to his protest. The military has nothing to do with it. Children in schools will stand for the anthem as well, but he's not attacking children.

And all that aside, a football stadium isn't the US military's version of Mecca. The military doesn't own football, any more than they own the anthem.

Now you're just spewing nonsense. He's protesting America and Americans. The US military is comprised of Americans serving America. They're every bit as affected as all other Americans. They just bring an added perspective to the table.

You've also made a dishonest transition from military men and women being offended to school children being attacked. Since when are the words offended and attacked synonymous?

Another dishonest transition is contrasting a football stadium to Mecca in the context of the US military as an organization. The discussion has been about the men and women in the military. For football fans, a football stadium CAN be a Mecca and men and women in the military CAN be football fans.

You present as a been nowhere, done nothing kind of person with contempt for the military. I find your argument to be small minded and distasteful ... pitiful.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Now you're just spewing nonsense. He's protesting America and Americans. The US military is comprised of Americans serving America. They're every bit as affected as all other Americans.

Exactly. That's why it's silly to say that his protest has anything to do with the military.

Your whole point seems to be that there were military people among the people offended by him, and therefore Smith's quote is technically true.

Sure, whatever.

But I didn't say it was a lie, I said it was silly.

Again, Smiths quote was:

by offending our military service men and women,

If all he meant was "some of the people offended by the protest happen to be in the military", why even pick them out? Just to try to glom on to people's respect for the military and attach it to his argument.

Does that phrase apply to everything one might do that might offend someone in the military?

I'm sure there are a few members of the military who would be at least a bit offended at being co-opted into this guy's argument.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Exactly. That's why it's silly to say that his protest has anything to do with the military. ...

Silly are you for leaving the last line off of my paragraph when you quoted it:

Originally Posted by sexobon

Now you're just spewing nonsense. He's protesting America and Americans. The US military is comprised of Americans serving America. They're every bit as affected as all other Americans. They just bring an added perspective to the table. ...

"... an added perspective to the table" means that while it affects all Americans it can have an added effect on men and women in the military which I elaborated on in post #70. Reading comprehension.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... Your whole point seems to be that there were military people among the people offended by him, and therefore Smith's quote is technically true. ...

I expressly stated the opposite:

Originally Posted by sexobon

Military people don't generally find it offensive; but, it's not silliness either.

Integrity in representing what others have said has never been your forte.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... But I didn't say it was a lie, I said it was silly. ...

And you were wrong:

Originally Posted by sexobon

... Those who would do these things are seen by military personnel as small minded and distasteful ... pitiful rather than offensive.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... If all he meant was "some of the people offended by the protest happen to be in the military", why even pick them out? Just to try to glom on to people's respect for the military and attach it to his argument. ...

Exactly. Did you figure that out all by yourself; or, did you have help?

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Does that phrase apply to everything one might do that might offend someone in the military?

Perhaps to Mr. Smith.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... I'm sure there are a few members of the military who would be at least a bit offended at being co-opted into this guy's argument. ...

I wouldn't be surprised; but, they'll take it in stride just as they do your arguments.

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