Stand up or GTFO.

[lumberjim]

I don't have any issue with him having his girlfriend's opinion. Been there, done that... It won't end well... Nessa Diab is his Yoko.

I have an issue with him trying to turn the spotlight away from something I enjoy and trying to force 'these conversations' onto people that don't give a fuck about his pet issue.

I love football. It's church to me. I look forward to Sunday. The last thing I want is for it to become the venue for random cork soakers to stand in front of reporters and talk shit about what other people 'should' do or How this county 'should' be.


I was disgusted by his broad brush allegations about cops murdering minorities and being rewarded with paid leave. It's a juvenile, reactionary and inflammatory thing to say. He has no idea what those people face on a daily. He hasn't even read UT's pawn shop thread.

To condemn the entire country because of some overblown news stories about the oppression of rioters and cop haters is indicative of an emotional childish mind. Tw would not approve.

I guess this is why I avoid the news. Every time it seeps into my awareness, I get disgusted with the shitty people that are involved.

I know there are mostly(? Eh?) good people in the world. People that would tell you if you left your coffee cup on your car roof, or that your fly was down....
...And I might not want to punch this dickhead if I talked to him about this face to face for 10 minutes...

But it sure seems like he is reciting some shit his girl has been brain washing him with.

Maybe he thinks Nessa is smarter than he is, and most other people he knows, and he's on board with her outrage. I've seen that before.

I guess my main point is this:

Football is about football. Nothing else. Don't bring your personal agenda to the game. That's not what the people that paid the money they earned came to see. Stand up with your teammates and give the contest 100% effort. One hunnet.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I was disgusted by his broad brush allegations about cops murdering minorities and being rewarded with paid leave.

How is that "broad brush"? Was he saying that the vast majority of cops are on paid leave after killing minorities? That would be broad brush. Or was he saying that the vast majority of cops who kill minorities get no more punishment than paid leave? That's not broad brush.

[tw]

Standing for a flag and national anthem is about respect. It says nothing about support or attacking a nation. Plenty of non-Americans should also stand for the national anthem? If not, they should be condemned? Nonsense. It is only a flag. Far more relevant is the issue.

One can criticize a venue he has chosen. But that in no way and in no manner affects football. Football and some cops who are racist with their guns are two completely different issues.

We need only go back to Vietnam when so many burned flags. What do we know now? Those flag burners were right. Go figure. They were wrong among those who were only emotional and deceived back then. Now they were right after we learned facts. They used the flag only for what it is - a symbol.

Only a fool would worship a flag. At best, we give it respect. Whether he sat or stood in no way affects football - if one is dealing with this controversy logically. The flag has no relationship to football.

However, the NFL combines both to promoted the NFL for increased profits. The NFL has no business wrapping themselves in the flag. But it works when promoting to the emotional - who somehow assume a flag and football are all about patriotism.