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Same here, in that you own the property and buildings on it, but there are utility right of ways on the deed which entitle them to use the land (usually over or under) for their systems. My deed even has a gas pipeline like this one, a half mile away because when it was laid one guy owned the whole road. When the properties were broken off, everything on the original deed is copied onto each deed although it doesn't pertain to that property.
This past summer the township sewer authority* took a 50 foot swath by eminent domain, the whole length of my property to cut all the trees and bury a 3 ft diameter sewer line through my backyard. * We have the authority to do anything we want, and there's not a fucking thing you can do about it. If you doubt it see SCOTUS ruling Kelo v. the city of New London.
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The other aspect about the case before it went to trial was that the guy who was holding out refused their initial offer of far more than the property was worth because he was the last hold out and he thought he could squeeze even more out of the development corp. His motives were greed, OK, but he made a gamble and then lost. He went on to fight it and played the "My poor old home means so much to me..." card to gain sympathy for his cause. In a real way, if you want to lay the blame for the effects of the SCOTUS ruling on eminent domain, it could go directly on the shoulders of the guy who was a holdout. Had he not made such a fuss it wouldn't have gone to the supreme court and perhaps (for better or worse) pfizer may not have chosen to leave. I'd be willing to bet the bad press, bad blood, and general hassle contributed to their decision to "fuck this place, they are pains in the ass." Had pfizer stayed in the town its residents undoubtedly would have savored the crumbs that fell from the mouth of the company's $48 billion annual revenue (at the time) Frankkly the guy was being a greedy douche ad only thinking of himself. The development corporation actually did have the improvement of the town in mind. As I said, I know people involved and neighborhood and town rejuvenation is a consistent theme. I think it is possible to be a good business person and have consideration for other people. Unless you have an MBA.
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SCOTUS of all people should be able to see the long range effect of this ruling. They had to know full well they were killing the sanctity of private property. So if some deep pockets comes along, the powers can take your property, pay you what they decide it's worth, and give it to deep pockets on the promise it will return to them more tax revenue than you would. That ain't right! ![]()
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I disagree with the court's ruling in every way AND I think the guy was a fuckstick. Even if he did manage to keep his property who is to say anyone would buy it? And if the development went on all around him and taxes were raised, he'd be forced out by not being able to pay his taxes. But he can go down in history as being the guy who went to court not over the principle of the matter but because he wanted more money than he was offered. And now we have that totally fucked up ruling.
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A whole bunch of people were driven out of their homes for nothing, but fuck them they're only little people. This is how it works.
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The(w)hole mystery is solved.
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And yes, that is how it works. Just so you know, I think the whole thing was a colossal abortion and ended badly.
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Oh, I didn't realize he had it up for sale before they came along and lowballed him. [/quote]
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