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All I know is when England got knocked out of the World Cup by Bitey, nobody at my company would switch to supporting the USA team. Even with me in the office asking them to. It was all "No I would never do that! Ha Ha!" I'm like what - we are you! Flag's red white and blue even! But no.
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Ok. Not sure what that has to do with American exceptionalism though...
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Neither do I.
![]() Switching allegiance after a defeat of your team is very bad form.
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There is definitely a sort of *thinks* not anti-American attitude that's far too strong a way to put it - but a feeling among some that America is too full of its own sense of importance in the world that might play into UT's experience. But more likely when it comes to football I think there's a bit of an attitude of: oh so now you want to play proper football in a world contest do you? Having pretty much shunned it as a 'girl's/kids' game for most of the lifetime of the contest, whilst you superbowled between yourselves. I think quite a lot of Europeans kind of look down on Americans a bit. Some Brits too. Silly really. I think for some there's a sense of Americans as not as sophisticated, and a bit brash and unpolished compared to the older cultures that you sprang from :p But I don't ever recall anybody being 'offended' by the phrase (or even notion) of 'American exceptionalism'. It's not like you say it to us....it's the narrative you tell yourselves.
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Right, importance. I figured the lack of support was due to that sort of "you lot became so big and powerful and we're tired of that and tired of the arrogance, now here's one thing the rest of the world has, to show you can't dominate everything."
But I must admit, I said nobody, that was a lie. On the day the US only lost to Germany 1-0 and went through (1-0 loss being an honor, especially after the Brazil creaming), one software engineer wore an impressive US flag shirt. One supporter out of about 50... but there was the one. After the US, I support England in the Cup and would be very happy if they were successful in it. Perhaps when FIFA are honest brokers and England can host again. England 2166! |
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In the context of your work colleagues though: it is also equally likely they were taking the piss :P
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Seriously, UT, you can't put youself into a Europeans shoes...mindset? Really? Just can't?
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I know Pico! I have so many ridiculous human failings. I'm kind of a joke of a person.
What I really need is to have some broad around to sarcastically point out my many issues in the middle of a simple, enjoyable conversation with friends. Haven't had that since my divorce. Thanks for bringing it back. |
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Are you knock-kneed?
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Ha. Really? You went with the 'c' word? Your testosterone must be dipping pretty low, UT.
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CUNT CUNT YOU'RE BEING A CUNT
I removed it after a few minutes of consideration, cunt |
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Are you knock-kneed?
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And if I wasn't a broad, how would you have taken my comment?
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Are you knock-kneed?
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Hmmmm....you still haven' t actually responded to the point of my comment. Instead you are still all butt hurt. Who is the cunt here?
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