A Plane disappears

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

We're already seeing what can go wrong in cars. Wait until they evolve to fly-by-wireless.

Chevy Cobalt (third generation Vega with the same deserved repuation) was designed by business school graduates. All properly designed cars both steer and brake even with the engine turned off. Only products designed by business school graduates (also called communists) are so dumb as to need a pump to steer and will lose brakes when the engine shuts off.

None of that exists in this story. The most unreliable thing in any system is a human.

[sexobon]

Looks like we're just going to have to wait until someone rings a bell and shouts "De plane! De plane!"

[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Looks like we're just going to have to wait until someone rings a bell and shouts "De plane! De plane!"

Apparently, when he died, the message went with him. Leaving us only with this Fanatasy world.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Get the fuck out of here, the Cobalt acts like every other car with power steering and power brakes. Engine off, the steering and brakes require a lot more input, but still work. It's clueless fucking drivers that don't know what to do when it happens, and liars like you promoting false information.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

... Cobalt acts like every other car with power steering and power brakes. Engine off, the steering and brakes require a lot more input, but still work.

Routine is to power off an engine in any car. Power brakes must work fine with full vacuum assist. Bruce would know that had he learned before posting. Steering might require a tiny more force on larger cars. And should require no additional force on small cars. Also called speed sensitive steering (discussed so many times previously). Bruce would know that had he learned before posting profanity to prove his manliness.

If a stalled engine requires more force to brake, then take it into the shop ASAP to fix a major human safety problem. These crashed Cobalts were apparently so badly designed as to lose brakes and could not be safely steered without engine assist. No properly designed small car (designed by engineers) has that problem. All cars, without exception, must have full power brakes if its engine stalls. But the emotional (not very adult) would post denials laced with profanity rather than learn how things really work.

Also looking forward for his clueless reasons why Malaysia Air 370 disappeared. Hopefully he will not repeat Mulder's X-file theories - that even claim a Cobalt would be harder to stop.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by wolf

This is the only thing work is talking about. I think it's the first step in a terrorist plot that will involve repainting the plane and spoofing another plane's transponder and taking out the new wtc tower.

hmmm...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...d-9195320.html

[xoxoxoBruce]

From the link...

Officials urged reporters not to jump to conclusions on the pilot and co-pilot, who they said had not asked to work together that day, and had not requested additional fuel for the aircraft.

They wouldn't have to be in cahoots, one or the other could have done it alone.

[Carruthers]

Statement of the obvious coming up.

The aircraft has either:

(i). Crashed at sea

(ii). Crashed on land, or

(iii). Landed safely.


If a reasonably gentle ditching was accomplished, not the easiest of tasks, followed by sinking, then little evidence might be left on the surface.

If the aircraft crashed on land was any evidence recorded by a seismic observatory anywhere?

Which brings us to (iii). I would not be in the least bit surprised to find that the aeroplane had landed safely somewhere suitably remote for one reason or another. I am far from a conspiracy theorist (I lack the imagination!) but I wouldn't discount the possibility that its location is now known and the powers that be are assessing the situation and wondering what to do next. A public admission to that effect is unlikely.

[Sundae]

I go with ii, personally.
Horrible outcome for the initial survivors, little hope thereafter.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Carruthers

Statement of the obvious coming up.

The aircraft has either:

(i). Crashed at sea

(ii). Crashed on land, or

(iii). Landed safely.


If a reasonably gentle ditching was accomplished, not the easiest of tasks, followed by sinking, then little evidence might be left on the surface.

If the aircraft crashed on land was any evidence recorded by a seismic observatory anywhere?

Which brings us to (iii). I would not be in the least bit surprised to find that the aeroplane had landed safely somewhere suitably remote for one reason or another. I am far from a conspiracy theorist (I lack the imagination!) but I wouldn't discount the possibility that its location is now known and the powers that be are assessing the situation and wondering what to do next. A public admission to that effect is unlikely.

Where it **could** have landed:

http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/air...es-flight-370/

[Carruthers]

Originally Posted by BigV

Where it **could** have landed:

http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/air...es-flight-370/

What was at the back of my mind was the 1973 hijacking of a Swissair DC8, a PanAm B707 and a BOAC VC10 to Dawson's Field in Jordan.
It was a disused former RAF airfield dating from WW2. I just wonder if a similar move might have been made in the case of MH370.
I suspect that there are many locations that could be pressed into use above and beyond the 'formal' airports shown in your graphic.
If the aircraft is still in one piece I just pray that all on board remain safe.

Dawson's Field Hijackings.

[xoxoxoBruce]

From V's link...

"The other assumption of course is that the co-pilot or the pilot might well have been intent on committing suicide and taking the plane and all of its passengers with him," *he says.

*Chris Yates

Why bother, just fly straight down, nobody can stop you. No, if the pilot and/or copilot planned and executed this it was not suicide, they planned on landing somewhere.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by tw

Do you really think people from the back woods of the Appliachians could do all that?

At least we can spell Appalachian, you fucking genius.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

At least we can spell Appalachian, you fucking genius.

It must be true. It was on the internet:
Appaliachian Christians
Appaliachian Ortho Center, Carlisle, PA
Potomac Appaliachian Trail Club
and home to my Alma Matter
Appaliachian Christian School, Boone NC

[tw]

Originally Posted by Carruthers

If the aircraft is still in one piece I just pray that all on board remain safe.

Deja Vu. They were "Lost" on a similar island. Some years later, we discovered they all died in the crash.

"Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth." [Sherlock Holmes] "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." [Spock]

It works in SciFi. So it must be true. First identify all possibilities.