Insomniacs anonymous - Page 2

monster · 10-10-2013, 09:10 PM

(not made any easier by the fact that I wake up pretty easily in those first few hours and am married to someone who goes to bed after me and could win gold in all Olympic sleeping events -sprint, endurance and creative)

orthodoc · 10-10-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

(not made any easier by the fact that I wake up pretty easily in those first few hours and am married to someone who goes to bed after me and could win gold in all Olympic sleeping events -sprint, endurance and creative)

Being woken by a spouse who comes to bed later ...

Any spouse who comes to bed later is honor-bound to slip in as silently as a shadow, having brushed teeth etc. in a bathroom whose light does NOT shine directly on the bed.

But I sympathize; in years past, I would wake up no matter what. Now I sleep heavily for that first short period of time and then all bets are off. Unless I have a night like most of the nights this week, where I didn't get woken up because I never went to sleep.

orthodoc · 10-10-2013, 10:44 PM

Still. Not. Sleeping.

I have a six-hour drive tomorrow morning. Damn. I depend on otc sleeping meds, which don't really work for me. But my onc doesn't 'do' sleep meds.

Still, by noon tomorrow I'll be back on my property; I'll walk my woods (wearing plenty of Blaze Orange); I'll pull the spent tomato plants and wrap the trunks of my fruit trees; I'll hope to see deer in the yard at dusk. Maybe some turkeys on the back slope. I'll sip hot coffee in the morning, watch the mists swirl through the valley and toast my feet by the woodstove.

I'll think about these things and hope to slide into good dreams tonight.

Sundae · 10-11-2013, 04:12 AM

Finally finished Doctor Sleep (the Stephen King book, not a self-help guide.)
Time was I would read Stephen King and I had to carry on reading because I was too scared to get out of bed and turn the light off. Actually with The Shining I was too scared to turn the page at times and had to hold the book away from me.

And yet one page of Doctor Sleep and I would wake up to find two hours had passed and I had a crook neck.
Not the fault of the book, which I do rate.
My pretendy-narcolepsy is almost as debilitating as my quasi-insomnia. I spose I had at last 35 years practice at dealing with that.

lumberjim · 10-11-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc

Still. Not. Sleeping.

I'll think about these things and hope to slide into good dreams tonight.

You'd do better to try not to think of anything. Thinking about the future distracts you from the present. You can only sleep in the present.

footfootfoot · 10-14-2013, 12:15 PM

Trazadone puts me out in combination with my sleepy head playlist and gabapentin oeeps me out.
My sleep study indicated the longest period of uninterrupted sleep was about 14 minutes or so, the average was about 8 minutes for a grand total of 3 hours.

I'm on the iPhone or I'd share more

orthodoc · 10-14-2013, 04:54 PM

I used a fitbit for awhile to track my sleep and it showed similar sorts of things - asleep for a few minutes, then restless/interrupted for a prolonged period, with a total of 2-3 hours' sleep/night. It was so depressing I stopped using it.

Clodfobble · 10-15-2013, 03:00 AM

OMFG my mother snores SO GODDAMN LOUDLY. We will never, ever share a hotel room again, of that you may be sure.

Big Sarge · 10-15-2013, 11:23 AM

LOL. People say that about me too

orthodoc · 10-18-2013, 02:25 AM

And ... still. Not. Sleeping.

Can I call in sick at work this morning? Is insomnia a thing?

When I was a clinical clerk in Toronto, this would have been seen as an advantage.

Now, it just means that I sample the night and waste the day.

footfootfoot · 10-18-2013, 06:58 AM

What is your going to sleep routine?

What keeps you awake, your mind or your body?

Pete Zicato · 10-18-2013, 07:43 AM

I've said this before, but it bears repeating.

I had horrible insomnia in my last semester of college. I thought it was stress. But it turned out I was anemic.

I know there can be many reasons for insomnia, but this is an easy one to rule out.

orthodoc · 10-18-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

What is your going to sleep routine?

What keeps you awake, your mind or your body?

I don't watch movies or exercise within 2 hours of going to bed. I read in bed and usually I fall asleep on my book - my daughter used to laugh at me when she'd come in late to kiss me goodnight and she'd find me 'sleeping while reading', with the book on my face. I used to fall asleep immediately but wake up again fairly soon due to pain in my feet from neuropathy. Just recently I've had trouble falling asleep and that's new. It's my mind. Too much on it, I guess.

wolf · 10-19-2013, 02:27 AM

Stress hoses my ability to sleep, as you can see ...

glatt · 10-20-2013, 08:01 AM

Interesting write up in Washington Post this morning about a new study just published in Science.

During sleep, our brain cells shrink, opening gaps in between the cells, which allows extremely efficient circulation of "cerebrospinal fluid throughout the brain tissue and flushing any resulting waste into the bloodstream, which then carries it to the liver for detoxification."

The circulation clears this waste, including "beta-amyloid protein, clumps of which form plaques found in the brains of Alzheimer’s patients."

10-10-2013, 09:10 PM	#16
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	(not made any easier by the fact that I wake up pretty easily in those first few hours and am married to someone who goes to bed after me and could win gold in all Olympic sleeping events -sprint, endurance and creative) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-10-2013, 10:44 PM	#18
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	Still. Not. Sleeping. I have a six-hour drive tomorrow morning. Damn. I depend on otc sleeping meds, which don't really work for me. But my onc doesn't 'do' sleep meds. Still, by noon tomorrow I'll be back on my property; I'll walk my woods (wearing plenty of Blaze Orange); I'll pull the spent tomato plants and wrap the trunks of my fruit trees; I'll hope to see deer in the yard at dusk. Maybe some turkeys on the back slope. I'll sip hot coffee in the morning, watch the mists swirl through the valley and toast my feet by the woodstove. I'll think about these things and hope to slide into good dreams tonight. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

10-11-2013, 04:12 AM	#19
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Finally finished Doctor Sleep (the Stephen King book, not a self-help guide.) Time was I would read Stephen King and I had to carry on reading because I was too scared to get out of bed and turn the light off. Actually with The Shining I was too scared to turn the page at times and had to hold the book away from me. And yet one page of Doctor Sleep and I would wake up to find two hours had passed and I had a crook neck. Not the fault of the book, which I do rate. My pretendy-narcolepsy is almost as debilitating as my quasi-insomnia. I spose I had at last 35 years practice at dealing with that. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-14-2013, 12:15 PM	#21
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Trazadone puts me out in combination with my sleepy head playlist and gabapentin oeeps me out. My sleep study indicated the longest period of uninterrupted sleep was about 14 minutes or so, the average was about 8 minutes for a grand total of 3 hours. I'm on the iPhone or I'd share more __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-14-2013, 04:54 PM	#22
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	I used a fitbit for awhile to track my sleep and it showed similar sorts of things - asleep for a few minutes, then restless/interrupted for a prolonged period, with a total of 2-3 hours' sleep/night. It was so depressing I stopped using it. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

10-15-2013, 03:00 AM	#23
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	OMFG my mother snores SO GODDAMN LOUDLY. We will never, ever share a hotel room again, of that you may be sure. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-15-2013, 11:23 AM	#24
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	LOL. People say that about me too __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

10-18-2013, 02:25 AM	#25
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	And ... still. Not. Sleeping. Can I call in sick at work this morning? Is insomnia a thing? When I was a clinical clerk in Toronto, this would have been seen as an advantage. Now, it just means that I sample the night and waste the day. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

10-18-2013, 06:58 AM	#26
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	What is your going to sleep routine? What keeps you awake, your mind or your body? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-18-2013, 07:43 AM	#27
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	I've said this before, but it bears repeating. I had horrible insomnia in my last semester of college. I thought it was stress. But it turned out I was anemic. I know there can be many reasons for insomnia, but this is an easy one to rule out. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

10-19-2013, 02:27 AM	#29
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Stress hoses my ability to sleep, as you can see ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-20-2013, 08:01 AM	#30
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Interesting write up in Washington Post this morning about a new study just published in Science. During sleep, our brain cells shrink, opening gaps in between the cells, which allows extremely efficient circulation of "cerebrospinal fluid throughout the brain tissue and flushing any resulting waste into the bloodstream, which then carries it to the liver for detoxification." The circulation clears this waste, including "beta-amyloid protein, clumps of which form plaques found in the brains of Alzheimer’s patients."

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