The Doctor is Out

[henry quirk]

"a combat damaged veteran"

Not really, no.

From Wiki: "...the Tenth Doctor laments that demise of his current incarnation, with its own personality and attributes, makes for something much akin to an actual death."

I'd say that makes each incarnation of the Doc akin to being 'brothers' to the others, or witnesses to the others.

Another example of this is when First met Second and Third, referring to them as clown and dandy.

Sure the Eccleston Doc may feel terrible about what his predecessor did in the Time War (even as he sees the necessity of it), but it wasn't 'him' who did the deed(s).

As for my assessing the majority of Docs as pussies or near pussies: *shrug* We could go 'round and 'round on that one.

I'm far more interested in an assessment of my theory about Hurt's Doc.

Any one?

[glatt]

I've watched an episode or two of Doctor Who back when that guy wore the long scarves, but don't follow it at all.

When people number the Doctors, like they talk about the 9th Doctor, or whatever, are they talking about the storyline? Or is is just because it's such a long series and they keep getting new actors? In other words, does the plot make any reference to the fact that there have been numerous Doctors?

In the TV show Bewitched, there were two actors that payed the husband Darren. They switched actors after a few years. But there was only one Darren.

[henry quirk]

glatt,

It's been central to the series, for most of the series, that the Doc, as a Time Lord, can regenerate, that is, become essentially a new person.

Sometimes this happens by choice; sometimes by accident.

With the Doc: regeneration is almost always because he puts his dumb ass into untenable and lethal situations.

So: when the Ninth is referred to, yeah, you're talkin' about the ninth regeneration of the Doctor, the ninth 'new person' to take up the name 'Doctor', sharing with the other incarnations mainly memories, but little else. That is, each is a distinct individual, not merely a continuation of the previous version.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

"a combat damaged veteran"

Not really, no.

From Wiki: "...the Tenth Doctor laments that demise of his current incarnation, with its own personality and attributes, makes for something much akin to an actual death."

I'd say that makes each incarnation of the Doc akin to being 'brothers' to the others, or witnesses to the others.

Another example of this is when First met Second and Third, referring to them as clown and dandy.

Sure the Eccleston Doc may feel terrible about what his predecessor did in the Time War (even as he sees the necessity of it), but it wasn't 'him' who did the deed(s).

As for my assessing the majority of Docs as pussies or near pussies: *shrug* We could go 'round and 'round on that one.

I'm far more interested in an assessment of my theory about Hurt's Doc.

Any one?

Yeah. That's one way of looking at it. But other Doctors have expressed the view that they are basically the same person. Whilst also talking about their former selves as very different. Clearly they remember the events of their past selves' lives as their own (they often reminisce about things that they remember in this way).


As to your Hurt theory. Yeah, I can go with the idea that the Eighth Doc knew that he couldn;t make himself do what needed to be done and forced a regeneration into someone who could. Either that or he was fatally wounded in battle and regenerated into the Hurt Doctor who then activated the Moment, thereby saving all of time and space whilst damning himself and 'breaking the promise' of his name.

The pussy bit I don't agree with.

[henry quirk]

HA!

Fair enough.

[glatt]

Do they show this regeneration, or is it off camera in between seasons?

Seems like if it's so central, they would make a big deal out of it and show the scene.

[henry quirk]

Oh, every regen has been shown 'cept Eight into Nine.