Government Shut Down

[orthodoc]

Agreed. It's a very imperfect start, but a start. Far better than anything conservatives have come up with. It can be modified, adjusted, refined ... but not in the context of holding the country hostage. Pass the bloody budget and then get down to tinkering.

At this point I say, make it a single-payer public system. Leave private insurance intact alongside. That's what has worked in Europe.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by orthodoc

Agreed. It's a very imperfect start, but a start. Far better than anything conservatives have come up with. It can be modified, adjusted, refined ... but not in the context of holding the country hostage. Pass the bloody budget and then get down to tinkering.

At this point I say, make it a single-payer public system. Leave private insurance intact alongside. That's what has worked in Europe.

So you're really saying, since both Reid and the President have already stated that they will NOT negotiate, that first, the Republicans should give the Democrats everything they want.

THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION THEY WILL LISTEN TO, THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY STATED, both in public, and in private.

And THEN, the Democrats will negotiate. Is that R-E-A-L-L-Y your plan?

You don't think that's just a bit naive and well - S-T-U-P-I-D - do you?

Because it sure sounds like it is. WHY would the Democrats negotiate with you AFTER they have everything they want?

WHY?

@Lamplighter:
So you have an increasing obsession with toys for cats?

Failing to accept reality will cause inner conflicts in one's psyche. The immediate problem is believing what your own eyes see, or believing the lies of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, et. al.

Is there ANYONE in the US, who believes that Obama, Reid and Pelosi are willing to ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE, with the Republicans, to end the shutdown?

Anyone?

I'd be surprised if there was.

@Bruce:

Found out today that the WWII Memorial was paid for by private funds, AND is maintained by private funds, as well. There is NO expense to the Feds.

The reason it was barricaded off, was because the politicians all know that WWII vets are brought in on "Honor Flights"; free of charge, from all over the country, to see it the memorial one time, before they die.

So Obama knew he could hurt them quite badly, when it was barricaded off. End of story.

I'm sure some people are still thrilled with Obama. I'm appalled with his actions, here. (It has since been opened up after all the bad press for the Democrats).