shot dead in DC

[orthodoc]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I think most of the people I meet are mentally ill, so how to we select which need help, as opposed to the ones that are self pitying attention whores?

Also, how do we help the ones that are so crazy they think they're fine? I sure as hell don't trust Dr Phil, and the courts have ruled you can't force institutionalize them unless they are a danger. There again, a judgment call unless they've harmed someone.

Self-pitying attention whores are just that. I'm talking about major mental illness, the kind that kills - major depression, schizophrenia, bipolar 1 disorder. Not the personality or anxiety disorders or the urbanites who can't decide what they think about anything until they see a therapist.

Psychotic people are completely immersed in their delusions or hallucinations. That IS their reality. They live in fear more often than not. If you hear your furniture whispering bad things about you at night and plotting to kill you, you act to try to prevent that and you live in fear, as the next place you stay has furniture that whispers about you, too. The danger comes when command hallucinations start, or delusions become so overwhelming or terrifying that the person acts on them.

Dr. Phil doesn't do psychiatry, he does family therapy.

[xoxoxoBruce]

OK, but the first group are more likely to demand attention, whereas the second are more likely to retreat and sequester, from what I've read/seen. Seems pretty hard to sort out, even if they agree to talk to a shrink.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But how do you locate and treat them before they try to ram the White House gates, or gun down a classroom full of children?

Originally Posted by orthodoc

That's the million-dollar question. ...

Maybe their furniture will turn them in.

[orthodoc]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Maybe their furniture will turn them in.

Not funny.

You reacted in the thread about Sundae's last drink because you had personal experience with some who'd lost that battle. This battle is worse. As with alcohol, no one chooses it - but with psychosis there isn't any way to abstain. The furniture example came from the experience of someone close to me, and it's as far from amusing as you can imagine.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by orthodoc

You reacted in the thread about Sundae's last drink because you had personal experience with some who'd lost that battle. ...

Not me, you're confused.

I lost someone close to me on 9/11 who was confused, you're imitation of a confused person is as far from amusing as you can imagine.

[orthodoc]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Not me, you're confused.

I lost someone close to me on 9/11 who was confused, you're imitation of a confused person is as far from amusing as you can imagine.

"I prefer to keep them alive by keeping it real rather than killing them with kindness."

That said 'personal experience' to me. If instead you were just blowing smoke out your ass, your tasteless attempt at being funny about psychosis is doubly offensive.

I'm sorry you lost someone close to you on 9/11.