The Iran Nuclear Debacle

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Originally Posted by Adak

Sharing some intel is good, but sharing photocopies of their passports, is not like they turned over the Al-Qaeda members, or any real intel they gained from interrogating these guys.

We don't expedite convicted prisoners to other countries without an extradition treaty. Why should Iran turn their enemies over to the US? Iran was being cooperative - listing some 200 Al Qaeda prisoners they had captured even with photocopies of their passports. Because Iran also hated and distrusted Al Qaeda. However lies from the George Jr administration insisted otherwise.

Iran demonstrated repeatedly that both nations shared common enemies in the Middle East. But Iran had to deal with people who were wacko extremist. They could talk to Dobbins and Crocker. But biased extremists in the George Jr administration, driven by rhetoric, destroyed possible reconciliation. Names particularly responsible for this include Feith, Bolton, Rumsfeld, and Cheney. Extremists see in 'black and white' - not pragmatically.

Foolish is to call Hezbullah an evil entity. They are just another group in a world where no 'good and evil' exists. Religion is a major reason for many 'good and bad' suppositions. Conclusions based only is childish emotions; by ignoring facts. Reason for so much death and destruction is also why so many see the world in soundbytes or in biblical style parables. And not pragmatically.

Attempting to kill the other guy's people is done by everyone - including the US. Death to all in a world dominated by religion is only a game. As long as religion is major reason for decisions, then everyone in the world remains a target no different from people murdered in Grand Theft Auto. In VietNam or Mission Accomplished, American soldiers would kill many for no reason other than emotion. Need we repeatedly play Bradley Manning leaks demonstrating the attitude of so many Americans and the routine coverups by their commanders? What makes those soldiers any different from Nazi Gestapo?

Attempts to assassinate the Saudi ambassador? Normal in a world (in a cold war) when the US already said it would Pearl Harbor Iran.

Unfortunately extremists also saw deceit and deception when Gorbachev was ending the cold war. Extremists also called that a trick. Then cited so much previous violence as proof that Gorbachev was not ending the cold war.

Iran and the US share many common interests in the region. And many potential conflicts. Time has come to explore possibilities that change has created. They tried ten years ago when the US was lead by people incapable of thinking pragmatically like a moderate. They tried when the US government threatened to unilaterally attack three nations for no good reason.