Government Shut Down

[Undertoad]

Here's a sticker for that new ride man. I find it hilarious but then I'm a degenerate and a deadbeat.



http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34791728...tangle_sticker

[Glinda]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Here's a sticker for that new ride man. I find it hilarious but then I'm a degenerate and a deadbeat.



http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34791728...tangle_sticker

It's part of your charm, UT.



Note: I lol'd. I am a degenerate and a deadbeat, too. Woot.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Here's a sticker for that new ride man. I find it hilarious but then I'm a degenerate and a deadbeat.

I knew you were a soaker.

[Lamplighter]

Harry Reid rejects GOP plan

In an unsurprising move, Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) rejected the latest House GOP proposal to delay Obamacare in exchange for keeping federal agencies open for business.

Reid issued a statement calling Boehner a hostage of “tea party anarchists” who are forcing his hand to take the impossibly strong line of attack against the president’s health law. It’s unclear when the Senate will return to take up the House legislation if it is approved later Saturday – some aides have suggested Sunday or Monday, while others said no decision would be made until after the House acts.

Reid left no doubt that the timing didn’t really matter, making clear that the Senate will reject the House bill. Here’s the full statement:

[richlevy]

There are 233 members in the house. About 80 of them are in safe districts. The other 150 odd members at this point are asking themselves if it's more dangerous to piss off the Tea Party and risk a primary challenge on the right, or follow them off the cliff and have their Democratic opponent in the general make the point that this wouldn't have happened with a Democratic majority.

Democrats took the house after a 12 year Republican rule in 2006. Republicans took it back in 2010. Even with a huge amount of gerrymandering at the state level, any large enough event that tarnishes the Republican brand can lose them their 33 seat advantage. Driving the government over the cliff would do it. While Fox News and the right wing media machine can preach to the choir and blame Obama, most of the independents will blame the Republicans.

Boehner is out in the weeds and is vainly hoping the Senate Democrats and Obama will both blink. His party is about to go into uncharted territory in delivering the first US default in our nations history. This will impact everyone, including billionaires. It is an unprecedented man-made disaster that would have global implications.

The President has very limited powers regarding the military in domestic situations under the Posse Comitatus Act with some exceptions to deal with any physical fallout. What powers he might claim with the Treasury and Justice Departments are much less limited. The point would need to be made with the rabid right that by inflicting damage to the government they actually give more power to the President to restore order.

It would be very easy to turn a conspiracy theory into a self-fulfilling prophecy.