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Old 06-01-2013, 07:34 PM   #1
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Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?


Personally, I'm wondering if it might be time for some militant radical liberalism. The hypocrisy and ruthlessness of theistic plutocracy makes it invulnerable to rational criticism. Where words fail, we must resort to sticks and stones.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:25 PM   #2
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Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?
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No, at least I don't... as I remember him he not really political,
but was more against development and industrialization.
Maybe others remember more about his "manifestos"
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:32 PM   #3
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Depending on how far back you want to go in US history,
there was John Brown and his raid on Harper's Ferry
in an attempt to trigger a uprising against slavery.

That one didn't work out too well.


Then depending on your definitions of liberal, etc. there was the
"union movements" such as the Molly McQuires in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, etc.

And many of the union strikes against management of various industries
in the 19th and 20th centuries turned to violence (by one side or the other)
But I would not really consider the union strikes in the same categories as today's liberal politics and social issues.
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:41 PM   #4
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Lamplighter, you've fallen for an old trick used by conspiracy wackos. They make wild unsupported claims, and while you spend all afternoon finding evidence to refute their bullshit, they steal your hubcaps.
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Would you consider Unabomber Kazinski to be left wing/liberal?


Personally, I'm wondering if it might be time for some militant radical liberalism. The hypocrisy and ruthlessness of theistic plutocracy makes it invulnerable to rational criticism. Where words fail, we must resort to sticks and stones.
ZenGum, theistic plutocracies are not alone in their immunity to rational criticisms. I heard today a few references like "...this is speculation, but it's informed speculation" or "... I understand the fine line he's trying to walk saying he doesn't want to make any conclusions before the investigation is done, but we know what this looks like" implying that, you know, we know what's gonna happen. We/I/you know what our conclusion will be.

I don't know how to battle this kind of crap, and I'm running out of hubcaps.
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