The Benghazi Incident

Griff · 05-30-2013, 03:53 PM

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

Lamplighter · 05-30-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

I don't know, but if Obama is in favor, McCain will be agin it, and v/v.

ZenGum · 05-30-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q?

...again?

Griff · 05-30-2013, 08:54 PM

John McCain denies he knowingly posed with with 'rebel kidnappers' in Syria

No danger in getting better weapons to these guys though, because clearly we know who we're dealing with.

Griff · 06-07-2013, 05:54 AM

Obama in 2007: “No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime, no more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war…” While Obama publicly expressed outcry at monitoring of citizens protesting Iraq, his administration’s collection of Verizon phone records was broader. Unlike the Bush White House, which sometimes did not use a warrant, the Obama Administration had a warrant from a FISA judge. Obama goes on to mention that FISA court system, which he used to get his warrant for the broad seizing of Verizon records, works.

Al Gore and Rand Paul agree with Past Obama. This a real not a Benghazi.

glatt · 06-07-2013, 07:14 AM

The telling thing is that the leaks are now going to foreign press.

Griff · 06-07-2013, 04:29 PM

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is secretly carrying out a domestic surveillance program under which it is collecting business communications records involving Americans under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act, according to a highly classified court order disclosed on Wednesday night.

Griff · 06-07-2013, 05:03 PM

EFF put out a time line of the NSA Domestic Spying Program. This is how Presidencies should end. If only the GOP had a leg to stand on in the 4th Amendment department.

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

Lamplighter · 06-07-2013, 05:24 PM

Those silly "liberals" and the ACLU have been warning of this for some time now.
When people are surprised and unhappy, maybe next time they'll pay attention.

Here is Ron Wyden (D- OR) last March...

Here he is speaking on extension of the Patriot Act back in May, 2011
YouTube (23 minutes)... vMAX_Frj8xM

If Democrats keep control of the Senate in 2014,
Wyden will become Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee
I suspect he will have some sway over which laws and budgets get passed.

05-30-2013, 03:53 PM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Is he still agitating for us to arm Al Q? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-30-2013, 08:54 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	John McCain denies he knowingly posed with with 'rebel kidnappers' in Syria No danger in getting better weapons to these guys though, because clearly we know who we're dealing with. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-07-2013, 05:54 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Obama in 2007: “No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime, no more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war…” While Obama publicly expressed outcry at monitoring of citizens protesting Iraq, his administration’s collection of Verizon phone records was broader. Unlike the Bush White House, which sometimes did not use a warrant, the Obama Administration had a warrant from a FISA judge. Obama goes on to mention that FISA court system, which he used to get his warrant for the broad seizing of Verizon records, works. Al Gore and Rand Paul agree with Past Obama. This a real not a Benghazi. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-07-2013, 04:29 PM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is secretly carrying out a domestic surveillance program under which it is collecting business communications records involving Americans under a hotly debated section of the Patriot Act, according to a highly classified court order disclosed on Wednesday night. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-07-2013, 05:03 PM	#8
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	EFF put out a time line of the NSA Domestic Spying Program. This is how Presidencies should end. If only the GOP had a leg to stand on in the 4th Amendment department. https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-07-2013, 07:14 AM	#6
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The telling thing is that the leaks are now going to foreign press.

06-07-2013, 05:24 PM	#9
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Those silly "liberals" and the ACLU have been warning of this for some time now. When people are surprised and unhappy, maybe next time they'll pay attention. Here is Ron Wyden (D- OR) last March... Here he is speaking on extension of the Patriot Act back in May, 2011 YouTube (23 minutes)... vMAX_Frj8xM If Democrats keep control of the Senate in 2014, Wyden will become Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee I suspect he will have some sway over which laws and budgets get passed.

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