Why gas prices are too high...

[footfootfoot]

tw, does your EROI figure from ethanol take into account the cost of soil depletion? Once that soil is gone, it's gone. No good for food or almost anything. How do you calculate those costs?

[tw]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

tw, does your EROI figure from ethanol take into account the cost of soil depletion?

No.

But again, if environmental extremists were using science and numbers to address the greatest problem, then they were ignoring Alberta Tar Sands (and Keystone pipeline). And addressing the most environmentally harmful fuel - corn based ethanol.

Ethanol cannot be delivered to refineries by pipeline. It must be delivered by truck or railroad car. A more dangerous method.

Residents in the Pittsburgh region remember an ethanol train that derailed maybe two years ago. Many remember a recent train derailment in the Philly (Paulsboro) area. It was not just a toxic plastics chemical. Also in that derailment were tankers full of ethanol.

We have ethanol in our gas because political rhetoric has justified it. Science, logic, and numbers were never part of a decision that only increases gas prices. And enriches the rich with welfare (tax subsidies).