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Old 03-02-2013, 05:34 PM   #1
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Too bad.
So sad.

Word on the street is 4,000 head start slots will be lost in New York State, nobody seems to have any idea how many classrooms will be shuttered in my organization. On the upside this is the only way the fuckers will ever cut "defense" spending.

Military Industrial Complex Invokes Emotional Plea for More Tax Dollars
I have no love for the military industrial complex. Halliburten can go to hell along with all the rest as far as I'm concerned. But active duty military and their families, as well as our vets should not have to pay for Dick Cheney's sins.

Many bad things will come down if the mindless sequester remains in place. The fact that some frivolous expenditures will get the ax doesn't make it any better.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:48 PM   #2
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At the bottom of this page at Whitehouse.Gov, there's a link to a pdf for each state, spelling out what the White House claims is the likely result of this nonsense.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #3
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At the bottom of this page at Whitehouse.Gov, there's a link to a pdf for each state, spelling out what the White House claims is the likely result of this nonsense.
Nice find Bruce. I checked out what this means for just Colorado:

Military Readiness: In Colorado, approximately 12,000 civilian Department of Defense employees would be furloughed, reducing gross pay by around $68.5 million in total.

Army: Base operation funding would be cut by about $57 million in Colorado.
Air Force: Funding for Air Force operations in Colorado would be cut by about $8 million.

Nutrition Assistance for Seniors: Colorado would lose approximately $720,000 in funds that provide meals for seniors.

Protections for Clean Air and Clean Water: Colorado would lose about $2 million in environmental funding to ensure clean water and air quality, as well as prevent pollution from pesticides and hazardous waste. In addition, Colorado could lose another $1.2 million in grants for fish and wildlife protection.

And more...

I don't know why you use the word "claims," Bruce. These are the things that will happen if spending is cut as dictated by the sequester. No, we may not see some of these things happen immediently, but they WILL happen if the damned government doesn't get its head out of its ass.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:39 AM   #4
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I say claims because these cuts allow some wiggle room for the department heads as how to apply them. It's politics and I'd bet a lot that these predictions are worst case scenarios.

I doubt anyone in congress will be suffering very much from these cuts. I got an email from my Republican Senator citing several items the government pays for which would make most taxpayers roll their eyes, unfortunately I didn't save it.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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I say claims because these cuts allow some wiggle room for the department heads as how to apply them. It's politics and I'd bet a lot that these predictions are worst case scenarios.

I doubt anyone in congress will be suffering very much from these cuts. I got an email from my Republican Senator citing several items the government pays for which would make most taxpayers roll their eyes, unfortunately I didn't save it.
Congress suffering from the cuts? BWAH HA HA HA!

It was mentioned in another thread here that it is actually illegal to change the amount of compensation that Congress receives until the NEXT congress gets convened. So our representatives will continue to get their salaries, plus all the bennies like government paid health care (which tea party members are happy to avail themselves of).

Even if Congress was dropped from the government payroll, they wouldn't even notice since the real compensation for Congressional members comes from payments by the "too big to fail outfits" and other well funded special interest groups.

Government of, by and for the people? Yeah, right.

@Griff Nice link. Thanks for posting it.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:03 PM   #6
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Even if Congress was dropped from the government payroll, they wouldn't even notice since the real compensation for Congressional members comes from payments by the "too big to fail outfits" and other well funded special interest groups.
You would think, by now, that everyone knows who is now most represented in government at the expense of the public. We changed the definition of a corporation. A corporation is now a person who can spend as much as he wants to distort facts and reality. As McCain so bluntly noted, the Supreme Court did not grasp that fact, in part, because none were employed where opinions and decisions can be sold to the highest bidder.

You would think everyone identifies those who most corrupt government. Who can spend unlimited money buying influence. Italy just voted Berlusconi back into power. Who in the world would be so dumb as to vote for Berlusconi? Those who can be brainwashed with rhetoric.

The Economist has a picture of a smiling Berlusconi entitled "Send in the Clowns". Why did so many Italians vote against their interests? Why were so many Italians so anti-Italy? Berlusconi controls a majority of Italy's media. He preaches like Fox News does in America and Murdoch did in Britain. So many can be brainwashed by a few who literally 'buy' their opinions. The majority are so easily brainwashed to even deny they are easily brainwashed.

Many Americans are also adults acting as children. Irresponsible rich (who do not create the jobs) obstruct solutions for one simple reason. They believe their purpose is to create profits; screw America. They preach trickle down economics. And they say it is good for corporations and the super rich to spend as much as they want to buy politicians.

You would think every American understands brainwashing that has created myths to hate the poor. Last week was a perfect example of how many 'know' only because they were told how to think? They voted for Berlusconi. No intelligent person would have done that. But votes are that easily bought - in public and in Congress. Extremists said that is good. Only extremists would respect Berlusconi. Only an extremist needs Congress influenced by those who invent profits and no jobs. Those who know without first learning facts are quick to endorse myths that even promote hate of the poor.

We have a sequester because extremists say "my way or the highway". Or "we want America to fail" - a direct quote from Rush Limbaugh. Or "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" - a direct quote from the extremist VP Cheney. Last week was a perfect example of how many adults can be manipulated like children. They voted for Berlusconi.

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