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Old 01-27-2013, 05:53 AM   #1
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Water takes the SHAPE of the given container, not water BECOMES part of the given container.

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That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.


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In the same way cars have doors, but a car isn't a door or house is made of wood, wood are made from trees but trees are not houses.
Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:40 PM   #2
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That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.




Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.
The water resides within the celery's cell walls, it is not in solution and can be removed, for example:

If a grocer had a box with 100 pounds of celery that was 99% water and the next day the celery had lost so much water it was only 98% water how many blowjobs would the former Brianna have given for the correct answer.

IOW I reject your celery water conflation.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:47 PM   #3
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That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.




Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.
There exits desiccated powered celery.
Powered celery is celery
There is no water in powered celery.
Therefore celery can exists without water.
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