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Old 11-07-2012, 01:49 PM   #1
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I think there's a lot of truth here.

Claiming that "Obama is a moderate Republican".

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Not even close. Obama supported cap and trade, nationalized health care, and closing down every coal fired power plant in the country. He's restricted oil and gas drilling on federal lands, and has actually taken over one of our biggest corporations, and arranged to sell it to the Union.

He sues states that try to pass voterID law. He won't support e-verify laws to reduce the influx of illegal immigrants, or give us decent border protection.

Obama: "Under my plan, electric rates would necessarily skyrocket".

THAT is NO Republican!
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:09 PM   #2
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Not even close. Obama supported cap and trade,
Invented by Republicans.
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nationalized health care,
Didn't happen, and what he did do was invented by Republicans.
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and closing down every coal fired power plant in the country.
Didn't happen.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:12 PM   #3
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Invented by Republicans.Didn't happen, and what he did do was invented by Republicans.Didn't happen.
yeah, but it's still fun to make things up.

What do you expect from a Kenyan born Muslim? And why do you hate America Happy Monkey? WHY?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:21 PM   #4
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Invented by Republicans.Didn't happen, and what he did do was invented by Republicans.Didn't happen.
Nationalized health care has a very long history, going back to at least Lenin and the Bolshevik Revolution, and probably long before that.

Thankfully, Obama's support of cap and trade (which he referred to as "my plan"), was so toxic to the economy, that nobody would support it.

Not even Democrats!
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:02 PM   #5
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He won't support e-verify laws to reduce the influx of illegal immigrants, or give us decent border protection.
Wacko extremists forget that immigrants are the source of at least 40% of American patents and the resulting jobs 10+ years out. Unfortunately, the rich will do anything to protect their wealth and biases. Including job destruction especially after 2000. Wacko extremists even hate immigrants (ie Islamofacism) - a greatest source of future Americans jobs and economic strength. Even FemoNazis were invented by these extremists.

On spread sheets, immigrants are an expense. In reality, immigrants are some of the best and loyal Americans - loyal as in moderates. Import more immigrants and export more rich wacko extremists (ie Limbaugh). That improves America.

Four years ago, Republicans had meetings to decide their future. They decided to make America fail; to make Obama a one term president. We all witnessed their subversive actitivites in Congress led by extremists such as Majority Whip Eric Cantor. Well, the Republicans are now having that meeting again. Which group will they hate? Since extremists need a bogeyman to justify their existance. Or will Republican cast out the Tea Party and Fox News wackos to become more patriotic - more moderate?

Adak demonstrates how wacko extremists think. And honest Adak would have posted logical (adult) replies. A wacko extremist must post insults. Because he is extremist, then he can only post emotionally. Extremists are the target audience of Limbaugh and Fox News.

An honest Adak would have answered why Romney, who once called himself more liberal than Kennedy, is now a conservative. He cannot. That answer would expose why extremism exists. So he replied with insults. And then refused to answer the question. As an extremist, he insulted Happy Monkey rather than answer honestly - like an adult.

Extremists find supporters among adults who still think like children. Who think emotionally rather than logically.

It goes back to what Republicans must ask themselves in ongoing meetings. Does the party stop crucifying its patriotic moderates (ie Senators Lugar, Snow, Castle) to recruit only wacko extremists? Why did the party (in Delaware) replace Sen Castle with a witch?

For the same reason, Romney, who once said he was more liberal than Kennedy, then *proved* he was an extremist conservative. The party encourages liars. Serious questions should be asked in those meetings.

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Old 11-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #6
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Immigration is easy, make Puerto Rico a state. Then pretend all Hispanics are Puerto Ricans.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:08 PM   #7
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“Ohio did go to Obama last night. And he really did win. And he really was born in Hawaii, and he really is legitimately President of the United States, again, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make up a fake unemployment rate last month, and the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence that cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy, and the polls were not screwed to oversample Democrats, and Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election to make conservatives feel bad, Nate Silver was doing math, and climate change is real, and rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes, and evolution is a thing, and Benghazi was an attack on us, it was not a scandal by us, and nobody is taking away anyone’s guns, and taxes have not gone up, and the deficit is dropping, actually, and Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, and the moon landing was real, and FEMA is not building concentration camps, and you UN election observers are not taking over Texas, and moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry and the financial services industry in this country are not the same thing as communism."

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Old 11-08-2012, 09:46 PM   #8
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But what about Bigfoot? Obama has NOT yet addressed the Bigfoot Conspiracy and it's long past time he dropped the cover-up and reveal the secret race of apemen who have been bolstering his poll numbers across America, especially in the northwest wilds. I'll bet they aren't even documented.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:17 PM   #9
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But what about Bigfoot?
Bigfoot is not a white, English speaking, Christian male. Therefore he is not a Republican and cannot be a true American. We should deport him back to where he came from.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:25 PM   #10
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They have to stop their war on women.

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Women sent an unequivocal message to politicians on Tuesday. The gender gap was a whopping 18 percent; significantly higher than 2008’s twelve-point gap. Women made up a majority of the electorate, and unmarried women were 23 percent of voters.

There’s no doubt that an upswing in feminist activism had a demonstrable impact on the election. From the Komen/Planned Parenthood controversy to transvaginal ultrasounds to “binders of women”—the vociferous energy surrounding women’s issues is indisputable. But there’s an argument to be made that women’s silence also contributed to Democrats’ resounding wins on Tuesday.

Despite the media and feminist focus on “war on women” this election season, women remain largely mum around their personal experiences with abortion and sexual violence. Feminists have long fought to end the stigmas surrounding rape and abortion—urging women to tell their stories. After all, more than one-third of American women will have an abortion in her lifetime. More than 600,000 adult women were raped in the United States in 2010. Still, most American women don’t talk about ending their pregnancies or being assaulted. Though this silence is not necessarily the best tactic for feminism or for women themselves, it may have been the final nail in the GOP’s coffin.
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