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Old 11-02-2012, 06:00 AM   #1
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Ron Paul is a nut extremist. He is a doctor, and he has some excellent comments about our Federal Reserve Banking system, BUT when it comes to anything else - He's a whack job.

And will never be elected Pres or VP, for that reason. Yes, he has his followers - in his own way he's a charismatic guy - but he's whacked. We had to put him into the primary debate, because he had enough support, in those first few states. He REALLY concentrated on them, because he knew he'd be toast afterward.

Don't even think about judging the Tea Party or Republicans, or Conservatives, by looking at guys like Ron Paul. You ignore Ron Paul, and I'll ignore your Maxine Waters, OK?

This is what we commonly see with the social welfare programs run by the gov't:
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The authors also argue that because the definition of disability adopted in 1984 is quite broad, the DI program often functions in practice as an insurance program for unemployable workers. For example, when 130,000 DI beneficiaries whose primary impairment was drug or alcohol addiction were removed from the DI rolls in 1996, two-thirds of the terminated claimants managed to re-qualify for DI under a different impairment.
http://www.nber.org/bah/fall06/w12436.html

It's not that helping the needy is something we don't want to do, but this kind of half-assed approach that the politicians come up with, just gets played by lots of perfectly healthy people. I know two who qualified for this one, myself - nothing wrong with them. They just learned how to play the system, and the first guy, taught the second one, how to do it.

Looking at Obamacare, I see one great problem with it:

1) they allowed companies to opt out or not require it at all. So after supporting it to the skies when it was a bill, all the largest employer's have opted out of it, already, now that it's a law.

That reduces our economy of quantity considerably, and shifts the costs (including the fixed costs of starting it), onto far fewer patients.

If we're going to have a nationalized health care system (and I hope we do), we need a smarter one. Why not study the good and bad points of the other countries who have it, and use that as a template for our own?

A tax hike for that, I would support - but not for something where people are not included - that's just nuts. Everybody means everybody, and if it's not for everybody, then it should be for nobody.










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Old 11-02-2012, 03:40 PM   #2
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Looking at Obamacare, I see one great problem with it:

1) they allowed companies to opt out or not require it at all. So after supporting it to the skies when it was a bill, all the largest employer's have opted out of it, already, now that it's a law.
That's only one problem, there are many others from my perspective. But with the power of the Drug/Medical Appliance companies, Health Care conglomerates, AMA, and Insurance Company's, sway on K Street, great compromises had to be made or it would never happen... ever.
Hopefully, with enough push from the public, it will be improved until it's what we should have.
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