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Old 10-26-2012, 04:17 PM   #1
BigV
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Seriously, liberals are naive and simple. They think people are always going to do the right things, act in the best way, etc.
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Seriously, conservatives are craven and fearful. They think people are always going to do the wrong things, act in the worst way, etc.
Really?

This is how you want to play? This kind of statement is not something an intelligent person would say. It is not something a person who is engaged in a dialog with others, seeking to understand and be understood would say.

I had hoped for better from you.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:06 AM   #2
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Really?

This is how you want to play? This kind of statement is not something an intelligent person would say. It is not something a person who is engaged in a dialog with others, seeking to understand and be understood would say.

I had hoped for better from you.
It's stupid, and I don't like it, but after enduring several personal attacks with that very word, I became rather tired of it being so one way. Thanks for getting us back on the right track.

Which indirectly gets us right back to foreign policy. Because you can work on a higher level as a diplomat, but ONLY if the governments you're dealing with, are working at a higher level, also. In North Korea, we don't have that. The NK's have serious food shortages, BUT they remain heavily militarized, with over a million man army. And of course, missile technology that is getting better, and we can't forget the threat of their nuclear bombs.

They are still at war with South Korea - which as we know, has moved from a 3rd world country, into a 1st world country, in record time. Meanwhile, NK's are starving. Despite the best efforts of the NK gov't, word of the success of SK is getting out, and is putting NK into a real squeeze. A coup is starting to brew, the NK leaders must know. They can't sit around and do nothing, although that is the box we have tried to put them into.

NK is trapped. Sooner or later, they will have to attack SOMEBODY, to keep their citizens rallied up and still supporting their gov't, in spite of food shortages, and everything else. That somebody will surely be, their chronic enemy of South Korea, and we are right there with several thousand troops. So we're immediately right in the thick of it.

We will support SK, no question. It's possible that an internal coup, supported by the Chinese, will lead to a more moderate NK, but otherwise, there will be war in Korea, again.

Our allies are not too helpful here, either. France has no bases close to Korea, and the UK has ZERO air craft carriers at this time! , and after the loss of Hong Kong, have little interest in the region. Their focus will be on the Middle East, Russia, and the Falklands.

So yes, we need to have a strong military, and we need to have a strong foreign policy. The NK leaders don't give crap about being polite, after kidnapping so many Japanese and South Koreans, so they could learn how to train their spies better, sinking a SK destroyer, and shelling a SK island. They are "itching" for some military action, just something small that they can save face and get some admiration from the people of NK.
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