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Old 10-20-2012, 04:34 AM   #11
Adak
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Originally Posted by BigV View Post
You're being deliberately obtuse in your conversation with cyber wolf
Yes, I know. When the Liberal is wrong, and the Conservative calls him on it, the Conservative is always being<fill in the negative behavior here>

But I gave him facts straight from the gov't, and the link to most of it, so that's all I can do.

I'm sticking with my argument for one simple reason. In my several decades as an adult, I've seen both liberal and conservative Presidents, city councilmen, county supervisors, federal and state congressmen, governors, etc.

And I've noticed that when these politicians are smart Conservatives, the area of their control, thrives and prospers.

When the Liberals are in control, we have a terrible time of it. Witness San Diego. My town. When our Liberal City Council ran things, we were nearly forced into bankruptcy. The New York Times coined our city "Enron by the Sea".

Three San Diego mayors later, we're still trying to get a handle on how to fix the mess the Liberals made - because it's just that bad, and of course, we still have some Liberals in power here.

Contrast that, with the San Diego County Conservative gov't. They have a surplus! Things can get done in the County. Meanwhile, we have City water pipes that just explode and flood the stores and the homes, because they can't afford to replace the old water pipes, like they should have.

Conservatism WORKS. Liberalism FAILS. You can see it in every liberal nation, state, county, or city.

As Margaret Thatcher famously remarked:
"Socialism only works until the money runs out"

A Liberal government, is a BIG government. It has to be so it can do everything that Liberals want done. And the gov't - all of it, rides on your back, and pays it's way, by taking $$$ from your wallet. Your freedoms get more and more tightly constrained.

As the gov't takes more control, you lose. The gov't is not your friend, they are your protector, but they are also a FIST, that can pound you or I, right into the ground. Your job, your business, your home, your car, your everything - they control with the force of law.

Here's an example from New Mexico:
The people are being hard hit by wildfires, and a lot of the land is owned by the feds. Locals want to remove dead trees which are leaning over high voltage electric lines. So does the power company.

But the US Forest Service won't allow it. Eventually, the dead tree falls against the high voltage line, and starts another wild fire. But now the Forest Service doesn't want to put out the fire. They want the fire to "meander" around, and re-introduce wildfires into the forest.

As a result of this policy by the US Forest Service, New Mexico residents have tens of thousands of acres of more fires sweep through the state, uncontrolled, every Summer.

If you'd like to hear the full discourse on the topic straight from the New Mexico Rep. Steve Pearce, you can d/l it from here:

You want Oct. 19th, H2 segment.
http://tunein.com/radio/The-Roger-He...k-Show-p20611/


See if you REALLY want the gov't running more of your life.

BTW, the Feds were supposed to give a lot of Western lands, back to the states, after they had their federal infrastructure set up.

They did that in the Eastern states, but never GOT AROUND to doing it, in the Western states. Rep. Pearce lays it out for you in the audio file.

Imagine that!
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