Death Penalty - Page 3

xoxoxoBruce · 09-26-2012, 04:05 PM

You sound like Karl Rove.

Happy Monkey · 09-26-2012, 04:40 PM

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Spexxvet · 09-27-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How do you justify the cost of keeping Charles Manson alive?

Entertainment value. When they trot him out every ten years on 60 minutes, his appearance and sound bites has us all talking for days.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You sound like Karl Rove.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

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I could be wrong, but I think he's referring to the 1% doctrine

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Vice President Dick Cheney describes the Bush administration's doctrine on dealing with terrorism:[3]
“ If there's a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It's not about our analysis ... It's about our response. ”

Happy Monkey · 09-27-2012, 09:54 AM

But in reverse. That is saying it's better to kill innocent people than to let a guilty one live.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-28-2012, 03:46 AM

That's exactly the type of thing Karl would say. An emotional slogan/sound bite that takes paragraphs to dispute. But you get just one from me.

The problem with you socialist pinko commies, is everything has to be squeezed into one-size-fits-all rules. It's a big country, and the population is diverse. What is right for NYC may not be right for Bumfuck, KS. What's right for a molested youth, may not be right for Charles Manson.

Happy Monkey · 09-30-2012, 12:42 PM

But, what's right for Manson is also "right", by law, for someone mistakenly thought to be Manson.

footfootfoot · 09-30-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How do you justify the cost of keeping Charles Manson alive?

Usually because it is less expensive than the death penalty, or so I've heard.

henry quirk · 10-02-2012, 09:14 AM

Only 'cause so much horseshit is folded into the 'process' by way of appeals and humanitarian treatment of the guilty*.

The act itself -- one gun, one bullet, one hand to pull the trigger -- is almost negligible in cost.

One thing, however: the State may 'try and convict', but it should be the aggrieved (family/friends or victim, if he or she lives) who pulls the trigger.

Never lobby for an irrevocability you yourself aren't willing to enact.

In other words: don't clamor for 'death' if you can't deliver it.

*see the latter part of the 'he/she' thread for an example of prison(er) absurdity.

09-26-2012, 04:05 PM	#31
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You sound like Karl Rove. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-26-2012, 04:40 PM	#32
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-27-2012, 09:54 AM	#34
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	But in reverse. That is saying it's better to kill innocent people than to let a guilty one live. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-28-2012, 03:46 AM	#35
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's exactly the type of thing Karl would say. An emotional slogan/sound bite that takes paragraphs to dispute. But you get just one from me. The problem with you socialist pinko commies, is everything has to be squeezed into one-size-fits-all rules. It's a big country, and the population is diverse. What is right for NYC may not be right for Bumfuck, KS. What's right for a molested youth, may not be right for Charles Manson. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-30-2012, 12:42 PM	#36
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	But, what's right for Manson is also "right", by law, for someone mistakenly thought to be Manson. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-02-2012, 09:14 AM	#38
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"...less expensive than the death penalty..." Only 'cause so much horseshit is folded into the 'process' by way of appeals and humanitarian treatment of the guilty. The act itself -- one gun, one bullet, one hand to pull the trigger -- is almost negligible in cost. One thing, however: the State may 'try and convict', but it should be the aggrieved (family/friends or victim, if he or she lives) who pulls the trigger. Never lobby for an irrevocability you yourself aren't willing to enact. In other words: don't clamor for 'death' if you can't deliver it. see the latter part of the 'he/she' thread for an example of prison(er) absurdity.

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