Florida Face Eater

[wolf]

Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon?

Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP.

Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator.

[Cyber Wolf]

Originally Posted by wolf

Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon?

Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP.

Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator.

I have, but no one would (want to) believe me.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot.

[Cyber Wolf]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot.

I don't think the pot helped the situation. Even if this guy was already wrong in the head without it, having that extra hallucinogen (possibly mixed with something else as yet undetected) would not have made things better. They clearly didn't here. I know some people can go right off the rails with nothing more than their own brain chemistry and a bad day, and those are the people who shouldn't have anything else of that kind in the system mucking things up.

The problem is, you don't know who those people are until it happens, in the same way you may not know you're allergic to shellfish until you're in the ER with swollen everything and EpiPens sticking out of your thighs.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

My friend was a careful user, very smart, studying bio, and still wound up addicted. But he may have been grounded enough and focused enough not to take so much he went over the line to that level.

Well shit, that doesn't sell newspapers... or help get drug war funding.

Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf

I don't think the pot helped the situation. Even if this guy was already wrong in the head without it, having that extra hallucinogen (possibly mixed with something else as yet undetected) would not have made things better.

1-Pot shows up in drug tests weeks after it's had any effect.
2-Pot is not a hallucinogen.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

2-Pot is not a hallucinogen.

It can be.

Four years ago I had some brownies that were so potent I thought I had an acid trip.

[xoxoxoBruce]

That was just a sugar rush.

[Cyber Wolf]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

2-Pot is not a hallucinogen.

It sure is. It's classified as such. It may be a mild one, but it is one. It's not as powerful as acid or LSD, sure. But it is chemically a hallucinogen. Users' experiences will vary, just like with any drug. Compare with pain killers. Just because aspirin may not relieve pain from an individual's ouchie doesn't mean it's not an analgesic. Some people (for whatever reason) need Schedule II before the pain goes away.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Balderdash, only by people with a buck to be made or job security in mind, not by people that know what the fuck they're talking about.