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Old 04-16-2012, 12:39 AM   #1
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The political interests of Women in America are the same as the political interests of Men in America. Ever notice the way conservatives try to split up the country instead of uniting it for the common good? Class warfare? Christians against everyone else? Men against women? I get fed up with it.
Sam, Sam, that is what the Democratic Party is doing. Conservatives qua conservatives care naught for such things, and if you or Ibbie knew any conservatives you'd know as much -- but Obama waves the bloody shirt for class warfare about every third word. I was fed up with him before he was in the Oval Office, and nothing he's done since has ameliorated that one bit. The America he wants is not the America the rest of us deserve, and he should be sent packing.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:20 AM   #2
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Sam, Sam, that is what the Democratic Party is doing. Conservatives qua conservatives care naught for such things, and if you or Ibbie knew any conservatives you'd know as much -- but Obama waves the bloody shirt for class warfare about every third word. I was fed up with him before he was in the Oval Office, and nothing he's done since has ameliorated that one bit. The America he wants is not the America the rest of us deserve, and he should be sent packing.
See, there you go again - trying to fit every question into the same wrong answer. Why are you so terrified of Obama? He seems to be the monster hiding forever under your bed or in the dark of your subconscious closet. Cowboy up and install a nightlite or something for god's sake.

I will grant that Democrats too are guilty of diversionary tactics. But the ones who are truely blatent about it are members of the ever more far right.

Ib is correct about Republicans becoming increasingly hostile to "women's" issues. What is even more discouraging is the lack of recognition that the issues under attack impact us all. If the government undertakes the destruction of the rights of one segment of the population, it undermines the rights of everyone.

When Romney first announced his candidacy, I took a dim view of his Mormon background and everyone here pooh-poohed me and posted stuff like "Mormons are people, too." Sure they are - extremely misguided ones. Here's a little on Romney's family backgound:

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Mitt Romney’s great-great-grandfather was Parley Pratt, a Mormon apostle who had twelve wives. His great-grandparents were polygamous Mormons who moved to Mexico because of U.S. anti-polygamy laws. Miles Park Romney had five wives—including one taken in 1897, more than six years after the “Manifesto” supposedly announcing a ban on plural marriage in the LDS Church. The historical evidence shows clearly that Miles was not an anomaly. LDS Church founder Joseph Smith had himself secretly practiced polygamy, and his successor Brigham Young led the way in making it a common practice in territorial Utah. Many Mormons, including Wilford Woodruff, the LDS Church President who issued the Manifesto, continued to take additional wives years after the Manifesto. Romney’s father, George Romney, was born in 1907 in Chihuahua, Mexico, to monogamous parents, and moved with them to the United States in 1912. George went on to become governor of Michigan (1963-69) and the head of HUD under Richard Nixon (1969-73). During his retirement years, George Romney held the offices of patriarch and regional representative of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the LDS Church.
Can anyone wonder at Romney's attitude about women's rights? The inequality of the sexes is one of the foundations of Mormon belief and anyone who doesn't think so has never attended a meeting of the Women's Relief Society. The issue of women's rights has actually united two groups - fundamentalist Christians and the Mormons. Republicans play to these extremists in the hopes of large PAC contributions and they are getting them.

God help us all.

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