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Old 04-15-2012, 01:59 AM   #1
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Yes, ZenGum's ideas about gun options being waving it, warning shot, and leg shot are as obsolete as BrianR's throw down knives and guns. Both actions imply that there was no immediate mortal threat that yet required the use of lethal force. With today's forensic capabilities, these have gone the way of shooting someone outside your door and then dragging them inside to justify it. Any of these actions may convince a judge or jury that you wanted to unnecessarily hurt or kill people even if that wasn't the case.

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More seriously, I cannot think of any reason to prefer a knife over a gun, if both are legal. ...
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More seriously?

Because a knife is useful in a thousand more situations than a gun is. ... And that's why I carry a knife and not a gun, though both are legal.
I got the distinct impression that ZenGum's post was in the context of self defense and not general utility. In any case, why choose when you can do both?

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... And ultimately, guy with a gun usually beats guy with a knife. ...
Here we only do that if we run out of ammunition.

Ummmm..... You Aussies are strange.

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Old 04-15-2012, 06:20 AM   #2
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Yes, ZenGum's ideas about gun options being waving it, warning shot, and leg shot are as obsolete as BrianR's throw down knives and guns.
By "waving it" I had in mind the situation where a certain awesome dwellar dealt with a problematic individual in a Subway Shop by sweeping the leg and intimidating the bad guy with his gun.

The South Australian police still have a "shoot-to-wound" option in their training and occasionally use it.

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Here we only do that if we run out of ammunition.


We shoot them first, then give them a good beating.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:47 PM   #3
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I got the distinct impression that ZenGum's post was in the context of self defense and not general utility. In any case, why choose when you can do both?

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Yes, I see that too, but it was rather an open ended question. It is true that the general utility of a knife is far greater than that of a gun, and that's why I carry one. As for why I don't carry both, though legal to do so, I offer this, respectfully. I don't carry a gun for self defense for the same reason I don't wear a helmet while walking on the street (or driving a car in town) or wear a parachute while walking across a high bridge. I feel the risk for not having such protections does not justify the "trouble" for having them and using them properly. It's an awesome tool for what it does, (they're all awesome protections for their respective risks) but I don't want the hassle/expense/risk required for the protection against what I believe to be remote risks.
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