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[Lamplighter]

^^^^ what Glatt said.

But, in Oregon, the other side of such issues is this.
Property boundaries can extend into the middle of a stream or river,
and some property owners try to keep people off their "water".
Then, some fishing clubs have bought property on both sides of the stream in valleys,
so they end up controlling access to ALL the property upstream of their own.
For fishermen, this is an outrage and viscously contentious
... charges of trespass vs all levels of physical fights.

It's in the courts and gradually changing over. Since 2005,
the rights of property owners have been reduced on "navigable" waterways,
so anyone can boat on the water and can walk along the shore up to the high-water boundary.

The issues on non-navigable streams and ponds is coming soon,
either as a result of something like the Occupy movement, or some sort of ridiculous tragedy.

Back in the 70's, Governor Tom McCall pushed through legislation
that all Oregon ocean beaches are State (public) property,
so property owners can not put fences from the road down into the surf.
There are some negatives effects of this too, but it's better than what was happening in some places.

I feel that, for Lake Oswego, the best route would be to have a legal decision that the water is public,
and then to have the City government work with the State Marine Board to hold public hearing and sset rules of conduct.
This has been done elsewhere and works out well, for the most part.
Of course, the wealthy L.O. property owners will not have their isolation.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

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I feel that, for Lake Oswego, the best route would be to have a legal decision that the water is public,
and then to have the City government work with the State Marine Board to hold public hearing and set rules of conduct.
This has been done elsewhere and works out well, for the most part.
Of course, the wealthy L.O. property owners will not have their isolation.

This law suit has gone ad extemimus sillimus

http://www.oregonlive.com/lake-osweg...tml OregonLive
Molly Harbarger, The Oregonian
July 10, 2012, 2:50 PM

Jonathan Lee Riches alert: restraining order, appeal filed to warn residents of Oswego Lake volcano, "sue-nami"

Jonathan Lee Riches is persistent.
The serial suer asked for a restraining order against Portland attorney Mark Kramer
and Lake Oswego Planning Commission member Todd Prager,
who are suing [The City of] Lake Oswego for denying the public access to Oswego Lake.

Riches, named the most litigious man by the Guinness Book of World Records
(which he sued afterward), previously filed a motion to become a plaintiff on the case,
claiming the city is hiding President Barack Obama’s Kenya birth certificate and Jimmy Hoffa's remains,
among other things, in a secret underwater bubble.

When Judge Ancer Haggerty dismissed it as frivolous, he appealed the decision,
naming all the city councilors and Lake Oswego Police Chief Don Johnson
as conspirators who forged Prager and Kramer's signatures on the original lawsuit.

The original lawsuit challenges Lake Oswego City Council’s decision to block the public
from accessing Oswego Lake from city property. The lake is considered private,
and lake-front property owners pay membership fees to Lake Corporationto use the lake.
Prager and Kramer are challenging that the lake can be considered private property in a federal lawsuit.
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