Religion in public politics - Page 2

Trilby · 11-07-2011, 05:08 AM

The Nightmare Before Christmas!

Jack Skellington is the dying (then dead) King

Santa Claus is the King re-born!

Oak King and Holly King.

See? It all makes perfect sense.

This message brought to you by a graduate of a Catholic School.

ZenGum · 11-07-2011, 05:19 AM

Halloween. The great Australian tradition of closing your blinds at sunset and ignoring those three kids who watch so much TV they think we have it over here.

Aliantha · 11-07-2011, 05:39 AM

It's pretty big in my little town Zen. I had 40 little bags of lollies prepared and I had to make more, and it was only one bag per kid. We carved a pumpkin, and I made up a big tub of jelly baff and put the lollies in there so the kids had to get gooey if they wanted a treat. The big boys prepared a whole bucket full of water bombs which they distributed liberally to (on) all the teenage trick or treaters. All in all, it was pretty fun although it's better when it's on the weekend. It was much bigger the last two years.

Trilby · 11-07-2011, 05:49 AM

Wait.

What?

Halloween is a pretend holiday in Oz?

O.

M.

G.

Now I"m glad I didn't emigrate back in '88.

Aliantha · 11-07-2011, 04:17 PM

We wouldn't call it a holiday here anyway. It's just another day with some hijinx at the end of it.

We definitely don't get a day off for it.

Clodfobble · 11-07-2011, 04:53 PM

Yeah, Americans don't get a day off for it either. It's just an evening thing.

Aliantha · 11-07-2011, 05:09 PM

Over here we don't call days like that a 'holiday'. You guys call Valentines day a holiday too right?

We might refer to Christmas as 'The Christmas Holidays' or Easter as 'Easter Holidays' or official days off work we'd call a public holiday (such as Anzac Day, Australia Day etc), but we wouldn't just call it a holiday. We do call the breaks in the school year holidays though, even if you don't go anywhere. We don't use the word vacation to describe a trip somewhere. We say we're 'going on holiday', which might be during the school holidays or could be during term time, in which case, you get time off to take a holiday.

Clodfobble · 11-07-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

You guys call Valentines day a holiday too right?

Yes. How would you refer to Valentine's Day?

wolf · 11-07-2011, 06:22 PM

Guilty Husband/Boyfriend/Paramour Suck Up Day, isn't it?

tw · 11-07-2011, 10:13 PM

Hopefully, this Christmas, priests will not pray on students. We should ban prayer from schools.

Aliantha · 11-08-2011, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Yes. How would you refer to Valentine's Day?

We just call it valentines day. Same as St Patricks day is just St Pat's Day. It only gets called a holiday if you get a day off, or an acknowledged day off anyway.

Griff · 11-08-2011, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw

Hopefully, this Christmas, priests will not pray on students. We should ban prayer from schools.

...and leave it to the football coaches eh? That's a state school down there, they shouldn't be praying on kids.

monster · 11-09-2011, 10:02 AM

Sorry to undrift a thread (I must be coming down with something), but we got this email from the school district superintendant this morning:

Quote:

Dear AAPS Families and Community Members,

I was recently informed by the State Superintendent of Schools of a major change in the proposed anti-bullying legislation. The passage of State legislation regarding bullying (SB 137) had been anticipated as a tool to help enforce and protect students from any form of bullying in schools. Instead, recent language changes in the proposed legislation is turning it into a bill, and potentially a law, that would permit bullying a student if it is “a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction of a school employee, school volunteer, pupil, or a pupil’s parent or guardian.” This recent change in the legislative language by the Michigan Senate is disturbing and potentially dangerous. It clearly makes exceptions for bullying behavior based on religious beliefs or moral convictions.

I will be writing to Governor Snyder and the Legislature to voice my concern regarding this “exception” in the legislation and I encourage members of the community to let the Governor and legislators know your opinions on this legislation as well. I believe this new language can endanger students by justifying bullying behavior. It is my belief that bullying cannot be justified in schools and that intimidation and harassment of students are unacceptable. As Superintendent of Schools, I am alarmed to see the inclusion of this new language, which can be potentially harmful in allowing and/or justifying unacceptable behavior in a school setting. Please let the Governor and state legislators know your opinion of the language added to Senate Bill 137. Their addresses are attached for your convenience.

Sincerely,

Patricia P. Green

Patricia P. Green, Ph.D.

Superintendent of Schools

Ann Arbor Public Schools

Governor Rick Snyder

P.O. Box 30013

Lansing, Michigan 48909

(517) 335-7858 - Constituent Services

HYPERLINK "mailto:rick.snyder@michigan.gov"Rick.Snyder@michigan.gov

Representative Mark Ouimet

S-986 House Office Building

P.O. Box 30014

Lansing, Mi 48909-7514

(517)373-0828

HYPERLINK "mailto:markouimet@house.mi.gov" markouimet@house.mi.gov

Representative Jeff Irwin

S-987 House Office Building

P.O. Box 30014

Lansing, MI 48909-7514

(517) 373-5808

HYPERLINK "mailto:jeffirwin@house.mi.gov" jeffirwin@house.mi.gov

Senator Rebekah Warren

Lansing Office

P.O. Box 30036

Lansing, MI 48909-7536

(517) 373-2406

HYPERLINK "mailto:senwarren@senate.michigan.gov" senwarren@senate.michigan.gov

SamIam · 11-09-2011, 10:55 AM

You have written a letter, right? I hope EVERYONE in Michigan writes a letter. Hell, I'd write one myself except that I don't count.

Just for kicks, I checked on the WBC site to see what they're up to. For one thing, God is stepping up the number of people he's sending to hell. 311 this visit as compared to a mere 136 on my last visit. Go god, go!

WBC is targeting the Charlie Daniels Band next for singing (what else?) "The Devil Went Down to Georgia." I wish the devil would come up to Colorado and rid us of these people.

Pico and ME · 11-09-2011, 12:31 PM

If this shit is for real, then call me mindblown.

However, if it is real and passes, it wont end up surviving. Im keeping the faith on that one.

11-07-2011, 05:08 AM	#16
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	The Nightmare Before Christmas! Jack Skellington is the dying (then dead) King Santa Claus is the King re-born! Oak King and Holly King. See? It all makes perfect sense. This message brought to you by a graduate of a Catholic School. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-07-2011, 05:19 AM	#17
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Halloween. The great Australian tradition of closing your blinds at sunset and ignoring those three kids who watch so much TV they think we have it over here. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-07-2011, 05:39 AM	#18
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It's pretty big in my little town Zen. I had 40 little bags of lollies prepared and I had to make more, and it was only one bag per kid. We carved a pumpkin, and I made up a big tub of jelly baff and put the lollies in there so the kids had to get gooey if they wanted a treat. The big boys prepared a whole bucket full of water bombs which they distributed liberally to (on) all the teenage trick or treaters. All in all, it was pretty fun although it's better when it's on the weekend. It was much bigger the last two years. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-07-2011, 05:49 AM	#19
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Wait. What? Halloween is a pretend holiday in Oz? O. M. G. Now I"m glad I didn't emigrate back in '88. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

11-07-2011, 04:17 PM	#20
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	We wouldn't call it a holiday here anyway. It's just another day with some hijinx at the end of it. We definitely don't get a day off for it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-07-2011, 04:53 PM	#21
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Yeah, Americans don't get a day off for it either. It's just an evening thing. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

11-07-2011, 05:09 PM	#22
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Over here we don't call days like that a 'holiday'. You guys call Valentines day a holiday too right? We might refer to Christmas as 'The Christmas Holidays' or Easter as 'Easter Holidays' or official days off work we'd call a public holiday (such as Anzac Day, Australia Day etc), but we wouldn't just call it a holiday. We do call the breaks in the school year holidays though, even if you don't go anywhere. We don't use the word vacation to describe a trip somewhere. We say we're 'going on holiday', which might be during the school holidays or could be during term time, in which case, you get time off to take a holiday. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-07-2011, 06:22 PM	#24
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Guilty Husband/Boyfriend/Paramour Suck Up Day, isn't it? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-07-2011, 10:13 PM	#25
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Religion in public schools Hopefully, this Christmas, priests will not pray on students. We should ban prayer from schools.

11-09-2011, 10:55 AM	#29
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	You have written a letter, right? I hope EVERYONE in Michigan writes a letter. Hell, I'd write one myself except that I don't count. Just for kicks, I checked on the WBC site to see what they're up to. For one thing, God is stepping up the number of people he's sending to hell. 311 this visit as compared to a mere 136 on my last visit. Go god, go! WBC is targeting the Charlie Daniels Band next for singing (what else?) "The Devil Went Down to Georgia." I wish the devil would come up to Colorado and rid us of these people. Last edited by SamIam; 11-09-2011 at 11:10 AM.

11-09-2011, 12:31 PM	#30
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	If this shit is for real, then call me mindblown. However, if it is real and passes, it wont end up surviving. Im keeping the faith on that one. __________________ Jesse LaGreca in 2012 “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” – Mahatma Gandhi

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