I don't have a dog in this fight, but...

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Did Herman squirt his DNA on a blue dress while in the White House?

Did he cheat on his high profile wife, currently the Secretary of State?

Did Herman shoot his load on one of his employees?

Is there any duplicity in these attacks?

Did Herman stick a cigar up a woman's vagina?

Did Herman get accused of RAPE?

A former President Bill Clinton did all of that. And he was a Demoncrat.

None of us know because the settlement contained a non disclosure agreement. Do you know the answer to any of these questions? I think Cain has drawn so much of the worst kind of attention to himself in this imbroglio. He *acts* guilty by the way he's changed his story, by the way he's parsed words "I'm not saying I didn't sign it, I'm saying I don't recall signing any settlement." etc etc. The last time I heard this kind of response was from my eight year old trying to get out of punishment for not taking out the trash. "I am not saying I didn't take it out, I'm saying I don't remember if I took it out."

FFS. You have children. Don't you recognize this voice, this uncomfortable squirming? If he did it, he should man the fuck up and say so. If he did not, he should man the fuck up and say so. He's had ten days BEFORE the story broke to get his shit together. ****THIS**** constitutes his shit being together?

Not good, not good at all.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

None of us know because the settlement contained a non disclosure agreement. Do you know the answer to any of these questions? I think Cain has drawn so much of the worst kind of attention to himself in this imbroglio. He *acts* guilty by the way he's changed his story, by the way he's parsed words "I'm not saying I didn't sign it, I'm saying I don't recall signing any settlement." etc etc. The last time I heard this kind of response was from my eight year old trying to get out of punishment for not taking out the trash. "I am not saying I didn't take it out, I'm saying I don't remember if I took it out."

FFS. You have children. Don't you recognize this voice, this uncomfortable squirming? If he did it, he should man the fuck up and say so. If he did not, he should man the fuck up and say so. He's had ten days BEFORE the story broke to get his shit together. ****THIS**** constitutes his shit being together?

Not good, not good at all.

Bottom line, Liberals are willing to jump on the band wagon of demonizing Cain over accusations where as they have no defense over a sitting President shooting his DNA on a young professional staffer while in the White House. An accusation is just that, often the expedient thing to do is to arbitrate, and what ever the decision is after that is what happens, you pay them off, you agree to something in private, issue over. It still does not rise to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, as Clinton was accuse of (due to his lies on the stand), not to mention his lies to the public, "I did not have sex with that woman". You people become more laughable every day....

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Bottom line, Liberals are willing to jump on the band wagon of demonizing Cain over accusations where as they have no defense over a sitting President shooting his DNA on a young professional staffer while in the White House. An accusation is just that, often the expedient thing to do is to arbitrate, and what ever the decision is after that is what happens, you pay them off, you agree to something in private, issue over. It still does not rise to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, as Clinton was accuse of (due to his lies on the stand), not to mention his lies to the public, "I did not have sex with that woman". You people become more laughable every day....

As usual, you don't answer my questions.

As for what happened between Clinton and Lewinsky and what happened between Cain and these three women, you fail to make a distinction between consensual sex and sexual harassment. They're as different as happy-sexy-fun time and rape. Consent is crucial. It seems clear that there was consent in Clinton's case, it seems equally clear, indeed the very definition of sexual harassment, that there was NO consent in Cain's case. If you don't understand this, or don't respect this, you need to stay the fuck away from me and my family and my friends. It's not that hard to understand, but based on your post above, you don't get it.

What I find hilarious is that your "defense" of Cain is "Clinton did it!" REALLY? That's... ok with you? That Cain's no worse than Clinton? You've made your opinion of Clinton pretty clear over the years, and if this isn't damning with faint praise, I don't know what is. Hilarious.

You don't get what sexual harassment means and you excuse it because other people did something. If attitudes like your continue to represent Obama's opposition, this is gonna be easier and more embarrassing than I previously expected.