Stimulus 2

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Merc, I'm curious what you don't like about the plan?

800 billion more in the hole. This god damm fool is going to be the end of us as country...

SamIam · 09-08-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

800 billion more in the hole. This god damm fool is going to be the end of us as country...

Try 450 billion.

My goodness, you certainly give President Obama more power than I have ever seen him use. If he can finish off the country, you'd think he'd take the Republicans down first.

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Try 450 billion.

My goodness, you certainly give President Obama more power than I have ever seen him use. If he can finish off the country, you'd think he'd take the Republicans down first.

Nope, only think he is shit for a leader and in the back seat of his power players, insurance companies, Union thugs, and lawyers. Oh, and Hollywood.

Aliantha · 09-08-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Nope, only think he is shit for a leader and in the back seat of his power players, insurance companies, Union thugs, and lawyers. Oh, and Hollywood.

We all know the president, no matter what party they're from, is just a mouthpiece right? He didn't write the package, and he didn't write the speech. Here's a question from a dumb aussie. If the dems think Obama isn't going to win in 2012, can they put someone else forward instead? I don't quite get the whole structure of US politics in that way.

Over here in the westminister style of parliament we use, if a party loses faith in the leader, they can basically vote him/her out and stick him on the back bench and put someone else in charge.

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

We all know the president, no matter what party they're from, is just a mouthpiece right? He didn't write the package, and he didn't write the speech.

True, but his cronnies wrote it and he has to buy off on it to speak it....

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Here's a question from a dumb aussie. If the dems think Obama isn't going to win in 2012, can they put someone else forward instead? I don't quite get the whole structure of US politics in that way.

Well they could, but it would be bad manners to try to run agains the incumbent and the only person who would have a chance in hell would be Hillary Clinton... and there is no way she could get elected unless Obama really screws up between now and then.

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Over here in the westminister style of parliament we use, if a party loses faith in the leader, they can basically vote him/her out and stick him on the back bench and put someone else in charge.

God I wish we could do that....

Aliantha · 09-08-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

God I wish we could do that....

In some ways it can be good, but it can leave the public feeling a bit ripped off. After all, they didn't really vote for the person who overthrew the leader.

Lamplighter · 09-08-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

<snip> Here's a question from a dumb aussie.
If the dems think Obama isn't going to win in 2012, can they put someone else forward instead?
I don't quite get the whole structure of US politics in that way.

Over here in the westminister style of parliament we use, if a party loses faith in the leader,
they can basically vote him/her out and stick him on the back bench and put someone else in charge.

Recent history says the US can't handle intra-party challenges
to an incumbent President... or 3rd party candidates.
The last time we had such a situation was when LB Johnson announced
he would not run for a 2nd term (due to Viet Nam War).

The result was chaos...

Robert Kennedy was assassinated,
Chicago had a police riot,
Cities across the country had race riots,
Hubert Humphrey became the Dem's nominee,
Ross Perow tried a 3rd party end run,

Nixon was elected, and we all know how that worked out !

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

True dat... and thank God black people and women can vote now....

BigV · 09-08-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Recent history says the US can't handle intra-party challenges
to an incumbent President... or 3rd party candidates.
The last time we had such a situation was when LB Johnson announced
he would not run for a 2nd term (due to Viet Nam War).

The result was chaos...

Robert Kennedy was assassinated,
Chicago had a police riot,
Cities across the country had race riots,
Hubert Humphrey became the Dem's nominee,
Ross Perow tried a 3rd party end run,

Nixon was elected, and we all know how that worked out !

'course, back then Merc was just a child, so it might be different now

what do you mean "back then"?

SamIam · 09-08-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Nope, only think he is shit for a leader and in the back seat of his power players, insurance companies, Union thugs, and lawyers. Oh, and Hollywood.

Well, name me a single politician who doesn't share all these characteristics - from either side of the aisle. And your rants will sound less shrill if you use the correct numbers. 800 billion is almost twice 450 billion. Neither of which sums is going to bring the US down.

Plus, what's all this garbage about cliques and name calling? People get so down on Politics because everyone here is perceived as being mean. So then people post here for no other reason except to call each other names? Maybe we should have a forum just devoted to bratty behavior.

Can I be part of your clique, Classic? You know - confusion to our enemies and all that?

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Well, name me a single politician who doesn't share all these characteristics - from either side of the aisle. And your rants will sound less shrill if you use the correct numbers. 800 billion is almost twice 450 billion. Neither of which sums is going to bring the US down.

Plus, what's all this garbage about cliques and name calling? People get so down on Politics because everyone here is perceived as being mean. So then people post here for no other reason except to call each other names? Maybe we should have a forum just devoted to bratty behavior.

Can I be part of your clique, Classic? You know - confusion to our enemies and all that?

The point is that spending us into further debt is NOT the solution. You can't continue to run up the credit cards! These Damm fools obviously have not gotten the message, hopefully they will get it in the next election....

classicman · 09-08-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Can I be part of your clique, Classic? You know - confusion to our enemies and all that?

If two makes a clique - sure. maybe we can have a secret handshake or something.

TheMercenary · 09-08-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Try 450 billion.

Oh! Well that changes everything!

not.

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