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Old 08-12-2011, 03:38 AM   #1
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I pray at least weekly for his complete conversion to capitalism
Do you think Jesus approves?

Maybe you could pray for your own conversion to humanism. There is more to life than money.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:11 AM   #2
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Do you think Jesus approves?
Jesus did approve of feeding money to the State, did he not?

And did not Jesus speak favorably of the freedom that is the human birthright? No less do I, as rereading some few of my posts will show.

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Maybe you could pray for your own conversion to humanism. There is more to life than money.
Capitalism is humanism, dear boy, hence I'm more the humanist than you are. Grasping that is the beginning of understanding humanity more profoundly than Barack Hussein Obama can or could. It's the beginning of economic literacy, too, to understand capitalism is naturally what humans will do, interacting economically -- absent government interference or the idea that said interference is needful. It is also the beginning of living a life that is worth having lived it.

Such a life is not being lived by V (as I note with sorrow; a man of his parts really shouldn't stay so stupid) nor by the Infinitely Simian Creature (who never had V's capacity, so I merely note it). You're really so very easy to patronize.

As I bite either of you, blood will shoot from your eyes and your nipples, to port and to starboard. 2012 is going to be an anti-socialist rout, and you can't see it coming.

Is there more to life than money? An exchange medium is a tool for keeping score. A life lived without money is a most primitive life indeed, and one quite unacceptable to yourself, Zen: a life solitary, nasty, brutish, and short. Awaken to Thomas Hobbes; he thought even better than you do, and you should readily be able to improve upon absorbing his writing.

Gallup says eleven Americans in a hundred are pleased with the way things are going. Apparently V and IM are two of the eleven, and can't muster up a good refutation of me between the two of them, if "bite me" is all they've got.

See how dumb Progressivism (of the State) makes and keeps you? Look at you -- you actually think that was a cogent, effective rebuttal! It's only a demonstration that not only are you two a pair of economic illiterates, but that you are unshakably determined never to be versed in the dismal science.

I disdained Mr. Obama's and his Party's bread-and-circuses appeals in 2008, and I was right: it was not sustainable nor wise. I will disdain them once again, which will cancel out at least one vote for stupid.

Now I'll move into philosophy: I do not seek in the State a parental figure. I am a free adult, and hence I am more a human being in full than any six leftist-progressives put together. Any six. Only reason the number is not larger is that even leftist-progressives can't be that dumb all the time. Except for the very few that really are -- the sort that only can stay on the street with regular therapy and counseling. Seeing in the state a parental surrogate is both a demonstration that one's mind is not mature and in any case it is bad for both parenthood and the state. The State should not be seen as a mother, nor as a father -- it should be seen as a weapon. Like a weapon, it has a certain spectrum of uses, but this spectrum is short, and does not and should not cover all of life. In the rest of life, there is all the stuff that does not need to be a weapon. In the rest of life, there is the stuff that does not need to be the State.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:43 AM   #3
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Jesus did approve of feeding money to the State, did he not?
He did.

"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s."

Handed a coin of the realm, he examined it and found that it had Caesar's name on it, and basically declared that this was something of earthenly concerns while his concern was the Kingdom of God.

But if that ain't enough:

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21:1 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.
21:2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.
21:3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:
21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.
21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
21:6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
The poor widow paying more than her share of taxes is praised; the temple filled with riches is not a substitute when earthenly concerns are left to rubble.

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And did not Jesus speak favorably of the freedom that is the human birthright?
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Old 08-19-2011, 11:02 AM   #4
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I checked for a citation, but only found a bunch of very off the wall websites. UG needs to spend more time with his Bible and less time with his babble.
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