London's Burning - Page 2

tw · 08-09-2011, 10:48 AM

Take away News of the World and the kids have nothing left to read. What did they expect?

Take away the full frontal nude on page 3 and the really nasty ones will get angry.

TheMercenary · 08-09-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by grynch

Don't know if you've read the background on this but the "tinder spark" was the Police shooting of a black man Thursday night, under what is being termed suspicious circumstance.

I'm thinking this might be a bad idea to burn down your neighborhood stores and loot and rob from the very business owners that serve your community. Those business people should do what they did in Watts in the riots in LA in the 1960's, close up shop and let the place turn into a slum.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

as always, the fight for the narrative will be dirtier than the fight in the streets

That's so true, Toad.

BigV · 08-09-2011, 01:22 PM

just heard the phrase "social media rioting"

also discussion about twitter and blackberry messenger as chief tools for the hooligans' reconnoitering. Up til now, the cops always had better communication. No more. There was some talk about the cops being able to go to the providers and ask for access to the messages but that was described as unrealistic to intercept or sever the communication of every user that transmitted the word "riot" or whatever. Good thing, that shit scares me even more.

wolf · 08-09-2011, 01:50 PM

Remember when a flash mob was just a bunch of geeks doing something cute and interesting?

I was at a local really huge mall when police got a tip that it was due to be hit by one of the bad kinds of flash mobs. There were police from three or four local jurisdictions providing a visible presence ... and the flash mob was either never a real threat, or they chickened out.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 01:57 PM

This is Nick Clegg, leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister:

His party is one of the two parties currently governing as a coalition. The other party of course being the Conservative, or 'Tory' party.

In 2010, when Nick Clegg was campaiging against the Conservatives he gave this interview:

Clodfobble · 08-09-2011, 04:30 PM

Has anyone heard from Sundae since this mess started? I'm not sure how close she actually is to it, but I'm getting worried.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 04:34 PM

She's a fair old way away, Clod. Though it is likely to be upsetting to her because of her connection to and affection for the city.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 04:36 PM

Horrible seeing Manchester and Salford erupting as well.

I was living in Salford in the 90's during a period of rioting, and the big carpet store up the road went up in flames. Seeing it again on the screen but on such a larger scale is not pleasant.

Undertoad · 08-09-2011, 04:37 PM

No known dwellars (that I can recall) live within the borders of London or in any of the affected cities.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 04:39 PM

Turns out by the way, that the initial reports that came out suggesting that Duggan had fired at the police and a bullet from his gun lodged in a police officer's radio have proved false. There was a gun at the scene, which police say belonged to Duggan, and that's what he fired. But that gun it appears is a replica of some sort and not able to fire the kinds of bullets that were at the scene, and the bullet in the radio is from a Police issue gun.

DanaC · 08-09-2011, 04:40 PM

There's also been some trouble in Leeds apparently.

morethanpretty · 08-09-2011, 05:04 PM

Whats happening is pretty incomprehensible to me. When I was a teenager, or even now, I would never think of random violence as a way to respond to an act of violence by the police, or as a way to respond to government action I don't approve of. I honestly don't see how this is going to help anything at all.
I feel bad for all of the innocent victims of this who are losing their business and sometimes their homes. I can understand it happening once and a mob just losing its ability to think rationally and go berserk, but the fact that its spreading and continuing to happen, shows to me that those involved have no rationality or empathy for those that they are hurting the most....their own peers, regular people just trying to get by.

morethanpretty · 08-09-2011, 05:21 PM

wolf · 08-09-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Turns out by the way, that the initial reports that came out suggesting that Duggan had fired at the police and a bullet from his gun lodged in a police officer's radio have proved false. There was a gun at the scene, which police say belonged to Duggan, and that's what he fired. But that gun it appears is a replica of some sort and not able to fire the kinds of bullets that were at the scene, and the bullet in the radio is from a Police issue gun.

Regardless of whether he fired at police, if he displayed a gun, or what appeared to be a gun, the police response of deadly force was justified.

On this side of the pond, anyway.

08-09-2011, 01:22 PM	#19
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	just heard the phrase "social media rioting" also discussion about twitter and blackberry messenger as chief tools for the hooligans' reconnoitering. Up til now, the cops always had better communication. No more. There was some talk about the cops being able to go to the providers and ask for access to the messages but that was described as unrealistic to intercept or sever the communication of every user that transmitted the word "riot" or whatever. Good thing, that shit scares me even more. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-09-2011, 01:50 PM	#20
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Remember when a flash mob was just a bunch of geeks doing something cute and interesting? I was at a local really huge mall when police got a tip that it was due to be hit by one of the bad kinds of flash mobs. There were police from three or four local jurisdictions providing a visible presence ... and the flash mob was either never a real threat, or they chickened out. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-09-2011, 04:30 PM	#22
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Has anyone heard from Sundae since this mess started? I'm not sure how close she actually is to it, but I'm getting worried. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-09-2011, 05:04 PM	#28
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Whats happening is pretty incomprehensible to me. When I was a teenager, or even now, I would never think of random violence as a way to respond to an act of violence by the police, or as a way to respond to government action I don't approve of. I honestly don't see how this is going to help anything at all. I feel bad for all of the innocent victims of this who are losing their business and sometimes their homes. I can understand it happening once and a mob just losing its ability to think rationally and go berserk, but the fact that its spreading and continuing to happen, shows to me that those involved have no rationality or empathy for those that they are hurting the most....their own peers, regular people just trying to get by. __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

08-09-2011, 05:21 PM	#29
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	__________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

08-09-2011, 10:48 AM	#16
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Take away News of the World and the kids have nothing left to read. What did they expect? Take away the full frontal nude on page 3 and the really nasty ones will get angry.

08-09-2011, 04:37 PM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No known dwellars (that I can recall) live within the borders of London or in any of the affected cities.

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