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Old 05-23-2011, 02:30 PM   #1
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Hey, thanks everyone for the outpouring of love and empathy.

I talked to my brain tightener today about it and have some strategies in place. Need some more time to cool off and clarify before I can talk about it.

The only Q I can get to right now is that this lasts for a few days, varies in severity and has been going on for as long as I've known her.

There are mitigating circumstances, and countless promises to deal with it and a belief that she is dealing with it, but I think it is not enough.

more later.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:34 PM   #2
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good luck, yard.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:37 PM   #3
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I recently heard about an elderly couple that were getting a divorce. He's 99 and she's 95.

Someone asked them why they want to get a divorce after being married so long.

They said, "We wanted to wait until the kids were dead."
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:57 PM   #4
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@ glatt: I once asked a lawyer why is divorce so expensive? Ha answered, Because it's worth it.

and then I laughed.

and HLJ, that is one of my favorite jokes
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:38 PM   #5
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and HLJ, that is one of my favorite jokes
Yeah, I suppose it's funny, but I posted it because I think it says something important about relationships.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:11 PM   #6
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Yeah, I suppose it's funny, but I posted it because I think it says something important about relationships.
mmm true.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:02 PM   #7
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Love is grand.

Divorce is ten grand.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:00 PM   #8
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Love is grand.

Divorce is ten grand.
Snickered out loud.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:15 PM   #9
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Sorry for you pain and frustration. I'm a fan of trying to make it work, even if you give it a go over and over again. We tried, we failed. I'm happy now, but it took a while to get back to happy. Sounds like you have a lot of friends here to lean on. Good luck to you.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:42 PM   #10
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I wish mine was only ten grand - It ended up being more than 5x that.

However my kids are older and I am far happier now.

YMMV
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:20 PM   #11
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I wish mine was only ten grand - It ended up being more than 5x that.
That's what you get for being less poor than me.
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:12 PM   #12
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Sorry to hear about it, footy. As you know, I have been through it, too. It wasn't pleasant and still isn't in a lot of ways. But if there is no other way to cope, then, you have to make the decision that is best for you and your family. The good news is, it does get better.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:14 PM   #13
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I realize tonight and after talking with my doc that for real a 3rd person needs to be present when we talk since there is a big reality problem.

Things did not end up great for the kids tonight and the level of response was disproportionate to the (perceived) offenses.

Just super sucky.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:36 PM   #14
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I realize tonight and after talking with my doc that for real a 3rd person needs to be present when we talk since there is a big reality problem.
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I can relate to that. There were times with J, I wished I could surreptitiously record the conversation to be able to play it back after and try and make some fucking sense of it. And to have some kind of anchor for when half of what was said or agreed got edited out or altered in his memory. Other times I just wished someone else was there to see and maybe tell hm things he'd refuse to see if I was saying them. Kept landing in bizarroland conversations out the blue.

Not exactly the same, but I suspect it felt similar.

Sounds like a shitty tme 3ft. Hope you find a way through or over that doesn't hurt too much.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:29 PM   #15
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I can relate to that. There were times with J, I wished I could surreptitiously record the conversation to be able to play it back after and try and make some fucking sense of it. And to have some kind of anchor for when half of what was said or agreed got edited out or altered in his memory. Other times I just wished someone else was there to see and maybe tell hm things he'd refuse to see if I was saying them. Kept landing in bizarroland conversations out the blue.

Not exactly the same, but I suspect it felt similar.

Sounds like a shitty tme 3ft. Hope you find a way through or over that doesn't hurt too much.
wow Dana. I remember that same feeling very clearly. Recording the conversation turned out to be both impossibly clunky and utterly simple. We'd start a conversation/argument and within a couple sentences, we were arguing about what the other said/meant. This became such a habit it was practically unavoidable. Needless to say, we worked out practically nothing.

The answer to "recording" the conversations was simple too. We communicate mostly via email now for just this very reason. Of course, we still argue. But the volume is lower, and the you said she said he said is down to almost zero. OF COURSE, deciding to communicate via email while bumping elbows over the sink at tooth brushing time is ridiculous.

But having that record made communication possible again.

Sadly, to get to that point (email), we first had to use "training wheels" (read: Attorney$). That is to be avoided if possible.
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