Osama bin Laden is DEAD

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Thats how it works in an oppressive state. The person/organization charged has to prove innocence.

In America, we do things differently. If one makes allegations against another person/organization, the burden of proof rests with the one making the charge.

Gafney/Geller/Breitbart have the obligation to offer more than the undocumented court "evidence" or innuendo.

Your opinion. I say an organization that has a long and well documented history of the support of terrorism has the burden of proof that they have changed their ways, not the other way around.

Nice try in an attempt to label those who disagree with you as supporting McCarthyism. "That dog won't hunt", Willie "Cigar" Clinton.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Your opinion. I say an organization that has a long and well documented history of the support of terrorism has the burden of proof that they have changed their ways, not the other way around.

Nice try in an attempt to label those who disagree with you as supporting McCarthyism. "That dog won't hunt", Willie "Cigar" Clinton.

It is not a matter of disagreeing with me.

It is a matter of how we do things in this country.

Your guys and gal smear organizations and citizens in this country with alleged evidence and innuendos about their "affiliations" and refuse to document it with facts.

That my friend is McCarthyism at its worst.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

It is not a matter of disagreeing with me.

It is a matter of how we do things in this country.

Your guys and gal smear organizations and citizens in this country with alleged evidence and innuendos about their "affiliations" and refuse to document it with facts.

No it has to do with the organization you are trying to legitimize. You don't get to define, "how we do things in this country". You don't get to set the bar as a faceless nameless poster on a web forum. What are your credentials that allow you to do that?

The history of the Muslim Brotherhood is well documented. Prove me wrong.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The history of the Muslim Brotherhood is well documented. Prove me wrong.

Where is the documented evidence that the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Muslim Students Association (MSA) or Muslim American Society (MAS) have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Or that Arif Alikhan or Kareen Shora, two muslims serving in the DHS and who have been smeared by your friends based on inuendo and undocumented "evidence", have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood

McCarthyism in its newest iteration.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No it has to do with the organization you are trying to legitimize. You don't get to define, "how we do things in this country". You don't get to set the bar as a faceless nameless poster on a web forum. What are your credentials that allow you to do that?

The history of the Muslim Brotherhood is well documented. Prove me wrong.

YOU have to prove yourself right. Burden of proof is on you. You can't make a statement and not back it up with documented facts, then tell someone else that burden is on them.
INNOCENT until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
Just like in a law suit, burden of proof is on the person making the accusation. You are making the accusation, therefor, it is your responsibility to provide the proof.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

YOU have to prove yourself right. Burden of proof is on you. You can't make a statement and not back it up with documented facts, then tell someone else that burden is on them.
INNOCENT until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
Just like in a law suit, burden of proof is on the person making the accusation. You are making the accusation, therefor, it is your responsibility to provide the proof.

No. The burden is on the Muslim Brotherhood. They have the history. Anyone who supports them assumes the same responsibility. If you think you can defend them, go ahead.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No. The burden is on the Muslim Brotherhood. They have the history. Anyone who supports them assumes the same responsibility. If you think you can defend them, go ahead.

The defense does not have to prove innocence. The accuser (AKA you) has to prove guilt.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

The defense does not have to prove innocence. The accuser (AKA you) has to prove guilt.

Fuck off. Bull shit. You prove the Muslim Brotherhood is a fun loving organization that only wants to promote peace and love in the Middle East, not dominate the political positions exposed by the recent vacuum.