Osama Bin Laden is Dead!!!

[Pete Zicato]

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

It's very difficult to carry around 4 jumbo jets.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

I guess that'll teach him to bring a forehead to a gunfight.

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

So were most of the people in the twin towers

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

So were most of the people in the twin towers

Zing!

[dmg1969]

Speaking personally, as a Republican, I think that the fewer people who knew about this operation, the better. Too many cooks spoil the broth as it were.

The biggest controversy I've heard about the whole thing was what Rep. Peter King said. That was that some of the information that got the ball rolling toward the courier who eventually led us to bin Laden was obtained from waterboarding terror suspects (KSM in particular). I will go on record as saying I have absolutely no problem with "enhanced interrogation techniques" when it comes to these types of people. It's quite a bit less lethal than their technique of beheading.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

Speaking personally, as a Republican, I think that the fewer people who knew about this operation, the better. Too many cooks spoil the broth as it were.

The biggest controversy I've heard about the whole thing was what Rep. Peter King said. That was that some of the information that got the ball rolling toward the courier who eventually led us to bin Laden was obtained from waterboarding terror suspects (KSM in particular). I will go on record as saying I have absolutely no problem with "enhanced interrogation techniques" when it comes to these types of people. It's quite a bit less lethal than their technique of beheading.

Ooooooh! you crazy right-winger! How dare you state the obvious! Off with your head!

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ooooooh! you crazy right-winger! How dare you state the obvious! Time for your waterboarding!

FIFY

[Uday]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

Speaking personally, as a Republican, I think that the fewer people who knew about this operation, the better. Too many cooks spoil the broth as it were.

The biggest controversy I've heard about the whole thing was what Rep. Peter King said. That was that some of the information that got the ball rolling toward the courier who eventually led us to bin Laden was obtained from waterboarding terror suspects (KSM in particular). I will go on record as saying I have absolutely no problem with "enhanced interrogation techniques" when it comes to these types of people. It's quite a bit less lethal than their technique of beheading.

If that is what you want your country to be, far be it from me to get in the way.

[dmg1969]

Originally Posted by Uday

If that is what you want your country to be, far be it from me to get in the way.

What I WANT is the ability to use unconventional methods to break these people and have them give up information which can potentially save thousands of lives!

I don't consider the techniques that I have heard used (making someone stand for many hours at a time, sleep deprivation or threatening their families with death) torture in the classic sense. And while waterboarding (simulated drowning) may be terrifying to the person on the receiving end, these methods are designed to not cause permanent physical injury. These methods are MAINLY psychological in nature.

Are you saying that you would be against these methods being used if they stopped another 9-11 here or in another country?

[Uday]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

What I WANT is the ability to use unconventional methods to break these people and have them give up information which can potentially save thousands of lives!

I don't consider the techniques that I have heard used (making someone stand for many hours at a time, sleep deprivation or threatening their families with death) torture in the classic sense. And while waterboarding (simulated drowning) may be terrifying to the person on the receiving end, these methods are designed to not cause permanent physical injury. These methods are MAINLY psychological in nature.

Are you saying that you would be against these methods being used if they stopped another 9-11 here or in another country?

Yes. Torture is inexcusable. Any civilization that would tolerate it is unworthy of the name. There are some prices for safety that are simply too high...Not because of what torture does to your enemy, but because of what it does to you.

It is impossible to both torture and to be the "good guy". You have to choose.

[Uday]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

What a shame.