Osama bin Laden is DEAD

[Jill]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Jill, you do not have a rational reason to vote for a Democrat, ever again, for any office. You do have falsehoods, rationalizations, and excuses, but I, as one of the people of freedom, a small-government sort of fellow, do not.

You are free to rationalize your own politics. You are not free to do so with mine.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The Democrats successfully win elections relying on the votes of the socialistic, the parasitic, and the dull-normal fellow travelers.

Interesting perspective. I find that the Republicans successfully win elections relying on the votes of the greedy, selfish, low-IQ, hate-filled, angry, frightened and those easily manipulated with complete lies. Guess which group I'd rather belong to.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Lets me out of that constituency, doesn't it? I registered Libertarian Party, so I don't exactly have a dog in the Dem/Rep fight. You do know which dog I root for.

The rabid one that needs to be put down?

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

It's not that I couldn't see some blogger bloviations -- it's that I care mighty little for them, hewing to the sort of opinionmongering that is giving the due credit to both -- Obama got schooled in the business of fighting a sub-rosa war and after two years' experience has had an unequivocal victory in this sort of unconventional, non-state conflict in which symbolic sorts of victories have more weight than they do in contentions between states.

An attack upon the policy record hardly means an attack upon persons. But again, and again and ten billion times again: stupid should and must hurt until it educates the educable to quit pissing on that electric fence. When you are committed to an ideology that obliges you to choose the lesser, the more collectivist choice, does that say you're intelligent?

What policy records? That's not what you attacked. You attacked the persons who adhere to those policies as being mentally ill.

The facts are, when viewed through the lens of reality, we as a nation have historically done better over the past half century when Democrats have been in control. Republican policies have repeatedly been proven, when implemented, not to work. At all. Well, that's not completely true. They work -- in the exact opposite way that's claimed.

I won't even humor you with what this country would devolve into under Libertarian rule.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Honestly, Jill dear. We are smarter than you'd like, or would like to acknowledge, tougher than you could handle, and we're fertile too. Just check out Sarah Palin -- who also might be hotter than you unless you could take the crown from Miss Turkey.

Honestly, Guerrilla dear, don't flatter yourself. I've taken on smarter than you and won. Handily.

As to whether or not Sarah Palin is hotter than me, or I could unseat Miss Turkey, I guess that depends on who's judging.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by Jill

The facts are, when viewed through the lens of reality...

ay, there's the rub...

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Y'know what, Zen? I eat wafers. Free wine on Sundays, too. (If the phrase sounds familiar but you can't put your finger on it, Google is your friend and Bob's your ungulate.)

And I was raised Unitarian if I was raised anything. I like to think the experience of youth plus that of maturer years gives me a broad and sensible perspective.

Atheism is much too cramped for me. Too much a belief in unbelief so its final reward seems so... picayune. Perhaps the most sturdily rational, or rationalist, atheist I ever heard of was Robert A. Heinlein -- a fellow I'd happily consign to Heaven.

Or is it righter to reckon of those who are atheistic "Verily, they have received their reward."

The list of despots who behaved all their lives as if there were no afterlife that might possibly be influenced by their deeds in this life is long and written in dried blood: Jenghis Khan, Mao Tse Tung, Josef Stalin and his enabler Vladimr Il'ych you-know-who, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler. Those are just the high points. Their nearest real approach to God seems to have been when they were swearing at somebody. There's always that whiff of dead folks around the anti-believers who operate on a large scale, who very often do not discourage their followers to worship them, mortal men, instead of something more abstract and with the right touch of the supernal.

What the small-scale antibelievers seem to lack looks like the opportunity to slaughter like the big boys.

Now I follow a trinitarian way, to the point of being an Episcopalian lay minister, duly licensed by the Diocese of Los Angeles. There's a lot of... brain going on in the Anglican Communion. You know that's the kind of thing I like.

The difference between religious thinking and superstitious (or magickal) thinking seems to me to be in what you do with it once you've thought it.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

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The difference between religious thinking and superstitious (or magickal) thinking seems to me to be in what you do with it once you've thought it.

You mean like a good Christian like likely presidential candidate Mike Huckabee who links gay sex to bestiality and abortion to slavery and who wants to amend the Constitution to reflect those views?

[SamIam]

Y'all are so cute trying to sustain a rational dialog with UG!

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Y'all are so cute trying to sustain a rational dialog with UG!

Just testing the findings of a recent study in the UK that suggests people with right wing views have a larger area of the brain associated with fear.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Just testing the findings of a recent study in the UK that suggests people with right wing views have a larger area of the brain associated with fear.

SRLSY!