No more government - boo hoo! - Page 6

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You would allow emergency rooms to turn away the dying poor?

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Fair&Balanced · 04-19-2011, 12:44 PM

I get the sense that some here are not really interested in even considering compromise. Its their way or the highway.

So, I suggest the highway.

Here's the plan. There was a bill introduced in the Texas legislature recently (by the same guy who introduced a birther bill and a bill to ban sharia law) to hold a non-binding resolution to secede from the union.

I say lets Texas secede and those in other states who want to free themselves from the over-bearing federal government can swap places with moderates and liberals in Texas.

You can have your free-market economy with no government interference, you can pollute the environment to your heart's content with no EPA regs, you can force the women to give up their reproductive rights, put kids to works....

On the plus side for us:
* two fewer Republicans in the Senate and a bunch fewer in the House
* a buffer zone against those pesky Mexicans trying to take our jobs
* the Dallas Cowboys could no longer claim to be America's team.

On the down side for us:
* hmmmm. I need some help here.
*

lookout123 · 04-19-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You would allow emergency rooms to turn away the dying poor?

If we keep giving them medical treatment we can't grind them up into fertilizer.

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

I get the sense that some here are not really interested in even considering compromise. Its their way or the highway.

So, I suggest the highway.

Here's the plan. There was a bill introduced in the Texas legislature recently (by the same guy who introduced a birther bill and a bill to ban sharia law) to hold a non-binding resolution to secede from the union.

I say lets Texas secede and those in other states who want to free themselves from the over-bearing federal government can swap places with moderates and liberals in Texas.

You can have your free-market economy with no government interference, you can pollute the environment to your heart's content with no EPA regs, you can force the women to give up their reproductive rights, put kids to works....

On the plus side for us:
* two fewer Republicans in the Senate and a bunch fewer in the House
* a buffer zone against those pesky Mexicans trying to take our jobs
* the Dallas Cowboys could no longer claim to be America's team.

On the down side for us:
* hmmmm. I need some help here.
*

Here is a better plan. Liberals can move to New England, New York and all states north of that, although Vermont may have a problem with that, and you can have California, or give it to Mexico if you wish, we will take the rest.

lookout123 · 04-19-2011, 01:34 PM

Here's another idea. Everyone shut off their TV until the election, don't read any of the mainstream partisan news sources, and ignore anyone who tells you what a politician or a policy "really means".

Most importantly quit being suckered into "liberal" and "conservative" labels. Actually listen to candidates' explanations for the policies they support and ask yourself 1) is that consistant with the constitution and the current amendments? 2) is that something that is consistant with my personal values?

The government wins by suckering us into fighting with eachother over what the meaning of is is so they can rob us blind while we aren't watching.

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 01:35 PM

To late. All of that happened already. I blame Al "I invented the internet" Gore... Damm you Al Gore!!!!

Happy Monkey · 04-19-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I don't really think the government needs to ... provide medical care when he isn't feeling well, or take my money to pay for it.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You would allow emergency rooms to turn away the dying poor?

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

They can't do that now. Where did Lookout say anything to stimulate such a response?

Emergency rooms take other people's money (in taxes and/or higher prices for richer people) to provide medical care to poor people, which is what lookout123 said the government doesn't need to do.

Providing non-emergency care as well wouldn't be some novel giveaway, it would be a more efficient and effective way to do what we're already doing.

lookout123 · 04-19-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Providing non-emergency care as well wouldn't be some novel giveaway, it would be a more efficient and effective way to do what we're already doing.

Which organization will be running this program again?

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Emergency rooms take other people's money (in taxes and/or higher prices for richer people) to provide medical care to poor people, which is what lookout123 said the government doesn't need to do.

Providing non-emergency care as well wouldn't be some novel giveaway, it would be a more efficient and effective way to do what we're already doing.

Emergency rooms don't take money in taxes from richer people, governments do that. Wealth redistribution is a failed plan. You must also be a Zero Liability Voter. Until everyone pays in, there will be no investment mentality to make it work.

Happy Monkey · 04-19-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

Which organization will be running this program again?

It doesn't matter; it's cheaper and more efficient to catch diseases earlier, and do preventative care to head them off altogether.

Happy Monkey · 04-19-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Emergency rooms don't take money in taxes from richer people, governments do that.

Where do they get the money to pay for the care of people who can't pay? Government funding and/or overcharging the people who can pay.

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Where do they get the money to pay for the care of people who can't pay? Government funding and/or overcharging the people who can pay.

Government funding is ONLY available to the few hospitals that are designated to do that, and I want to be sure that you understand that those are few. The rest suck it up, and charge the rest of us the balance. You really need to get out and read more....

Happy Monkey · 04-19-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Where do they get the money to pay for the care of people who can't pay? Government funding and/or overcharging the people who can pay.

You need to get out and read the post you are responding to.

TheMercenary · 04-19-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You need to get out and read the post you are responding to.

Oh, hey, well at least you acknowledge that it does NOT fucking come from taxes.... You are making progress!

Happy Monkey · 04-19-2011, 05:55 PM

It comes from government regulation on any hospital that receives Federal money. It is written off as a tax deduction by the hospitals, and the remaining cost is transferred to the richer patients. So, as I said to start with,

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Emergency rooms take other people's money (in taxes and/or higher prices for richer people) to provide medical care to poor people,

04-19-2011, 01:34 PM	#80
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Here's another idea. Everyone shut off their TV until the election, don't read any of the mainstream partisan news sources, and ignore anyone who tells you what a politician or a policy "really means". Most importantly quit being suckered into "liberal" and "conservative" labels. Actually listen to candidates' explanations for the policies they support and ask yourself 1) is that consistant with the constitution and the current amendments? 2) is that something that is consistant with my personal values? The government wins by suckering us into fighting with eachother over what the meaning of is is so they can rob us blind while we aren't watching. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

04-19-2011, 01:35 PM	#81
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	To late. All of that happened already. I blame Al "I invented the internet" Gore... Damm you Al Gore!!!! __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-19-2011, 12:44 PM	#77
Fair&Balanced Operations Operative Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 495	I get the sense that some here are not really interested in even considering compromise. Its their way or the highway. So, I suggest the highway. Here's the plan. There was a bill introduced in the Texas legislature recently (by the same guy who introduced a birther bill and a bill to ban sharia law) to hold a non-binding resolution to secede from the union. I say lets Texas secede and those in other states who want to free themselves from the over-bearing federal government can swap places with moderates and liberals in Texas. You can have your free-market economy with no government interference, you can pollute the environment to your heart's content with no EPA regs, you can force the women to give up their reproductive rights, put kids to works.... On the plus side for us: * two fewer Republicans in the Senate and a bunch fewer in the House * a buffer zone against those pesky Mexicans trying to take our jobs * the Dallas Cowboys could no longer claim to be America's team. On the down side for us: * hmmmm. I need some help here. *

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