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Old 04-01-2011, 09:21 AM   #376
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I'd like to second Sheldon's motion... so to speak.
And ass pics!!! Ibram has a nice ass and it's a shame he doesn't share it more with me...I mean US! ;-)
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:26 AM   #377
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Well anonymoo, it appears your photo didn't distrct them for long. Do you have any involving a chainsaw and a shetland pony?
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:39 AM   #378
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So when Sheldon posts a cock-chugging pic, yes, after my 47 years of fighting for gay rights, my hundreds of gay friends and acquaintances, and ALL the time I've spent in theatre groups -- my instinctive reaction is FUCK, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT.

Our thousands of years of culture has tried to put a layer of respectable behavior on top of these base, reptile-brain reactions, and sometimes we succeed at doing this. But to be offended by such a reaction is like being angry at the river for only flowing one way. Paddle against the stream if you must, but know that it'll be a hard time, and the river isn't going to change paths, no matter how you rage at it.
The Almighty Toad has spoken. Wise is he.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:42 AM   #379
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Well anonymoo, it appears your photo didn't distrct them for long. Do you have any involving a chainsaw and a shetland pony?
I think full frontal would do the trick. It'd keep one hand off the keyboard, anyway, so they'd only be able to type half as fast.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:51 AM   #380
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I think full frontal would do the trick. It'd keep one hand off the keyboard, anyway, so they'd only be able to type half as fast.
I get the feeling a lot of us type half-fast.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:33 PM   #381
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Maybe we should have a single "unemployed violence mongers who are angry at the world" forum for people like you.
I think I'm supposed to be offended by this. Eh, better men than you have said worse about me, so keep trying sweetie.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:34 PM   #382
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I get the feeling a lot of us type half-fast.
I see what you did there.
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:22 PM   #383
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You asked for it. Here it is. A 3 generation full monty. Maybe this will keep your attention for awhile. Please don't hate.
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:54 PM   #384
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UT, i don't doubt that some dwellars - you included - are supportive and respectful. but every time I come back here, especially after being away for a while, i only see more and more intolerance, bigotry, name-calling, pettiness... it breaks my heart a little to see the cellar circling the drain. The internet's a pretty awful place, but the cellar, to me, was always separate from that, and more like, well, a community. now it feels like so many other forums out there. and that really... sucks.
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:05 PM   #385
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:32 PM   #386
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The cellar is no different to the way it has always been. There is bigotry and understanding, spitefulness and kindness, cold shoulders and warm hearts. As there always was.

You have distanced yourself from us and so you are no longer feeling the warm and fuzzy that comes from acceptance and day to day interaction

To a large extent you will find in the cellar whatever you expect to find as
That is what you will mentally screen for. The fact that you have come to the conclusion we're a bunch of bigots who aren't to be trusted with the emotional
And cultural sensitivities of lbgt issues basednon some flippant comments on the nudie thread whilst steadfastly ignoring the warmth and support Pamela has met with on annoincing her transition and posting a gorgeous glamour pic shows just how selective you are being.

I understand that as a lgbt youth you are acutely aware of potential slights and bigotry on this area, but I believe you are over reacting to a few minor misteps on our part whilst ignoring the main thrust of the cellar which is actually more understanding and inclusive than most communities.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:22 PM   #387
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A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders and religion or spirituality. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views.
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I don't have any panties that make my ass look that good. I was actually mostly just flattered that people thought i could pass that well, even if they were busy saying that "i" wasn't passing. I didn't reply sooner because I haven't been BACK to the cellar since this went down. But - and maybe i'm hypersensitive, compared to all you old farts, or maybe my pinko commie hippy school is to blame - as an LGBT youth, i find the tone and tenor of the way this forum treats gender and trans*, genderfluid, non-binary, and otherwise queer folks to be utterly offensive. Speculating on someone's sex, when they clearly identify as female, is, yes, offensive. Inherently and inevitably. I have been struggling with my own gender identity lately, and i'm increasingly sure i'm at least not a cis male, and i know for sure, if i were to post a picture of myself as a female, the MOST offensive and hurtful thing for all the initial responses to be would be "no thats a man." The problem isn't necessarily ill-will - it's much more likely sheer ignorance. I should go find some queer, trans*-friendly info to post for you. Someone's gender identity is not yours or anyone else's to police. If a male-bodied person identifies as a woman, to treat them otherwise, or even to speculate out loud, is INHERENTLY offensive. Joking in thread after thread about women actually being men is INHERENTLY offensive. I'm not appalled that anyone thought the anonymous poster was a man. I'm appalled that people thought it was their business to decide for the person in question what their gender was or seemed.


Trans* erasure, binarism, and transphobia are offensive and bigoted, not just to me but to the entire LGBT community.



and Dana: Thank you for saying "you are a good example of someone who is going to be beautiful when they dress feminine and handsome when they dress masculine." I keep myself up some nights wishing i could pass better, wishing i could look like the anonymous poster, struggling with my lumpy, ugly, butch man-body, but hearing things like that helps. Thank you.
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welcome to exactly what i mean. standing up against offensive, bigoted posting is dismissed as coming of age angst. welcome to the new face of the cellar.
Spoken like a true, self-loathing, look-ist, bigoted, hypocrite.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:22 PM   #388
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Wait a minute - am I the only one that is concerned I can't see the nekkid picture anonymoo posted? Let's get our priorities straight. I thought this thread was about nudity!!
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:23 PM   #389
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:27 PM   #390
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what is this I don't even
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