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Old 03-26-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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Weapons in School: Zero Tolerance

What does it/should it mean?

Real weapons? check

But what about:
  • pocket knives
  • nail clippers
  • knitting needles
  • halloween costume replica weapons
  • guns make out of lego
  • swords made out of sticks
  • fingers pointed like guns
  • talking about weapons
  • drawing pictures of weapons
  • books containing images of weapons
  • writing about weapons
  • plastic knives in lunch boxes
  • shirts with images of weapons
  • Buffalo Sabres shirts

And if zero tolerance really means zero, how are students to learn about the civil war?

If you can, please try not to bring politics into this, just offer your personal opinion on where the line should be drawn (the above are not necessarily in an order where you need to draw a line and those above are OK, those below are not....) it is true, however, that I was surprised to be told that my child had been warned about one of the above behaviours/actions and told it wasn't OK due to the "zero tolerance".
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:41 AM   #2
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war is not teh fluffeh. hush your un pc mouf
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:13 PM   #3
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I agree up this point ,
* guns make out of lego
* swords made out of sticks
* fingers pointed like guns WTF ???
* talking about weapons Free speech ??
* drawing pictures of weapons
* books containing images of weapons So much for History or LOTS of Art
* writing about weapons Again free speach
* plastic knives in lunch boxes
* shirts with images of weapons
* Buffalo Sabres shirts WTF is this

This just PC Bull shit
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:21 PM   #4
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It's not actually a "zero tolerance" policy if she was only warned. If she violated the policy, she should be expelled.
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:31 PM   #5
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"zero tolerance" policies are stupid. Teachers and administration should make judgment calls based on each situation, and they should be intelligent about it.

When I was in high school, we were studying ancient and medieval history, and one of the students brought in a home made mace for "show and tell." The teacher was pleased.
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:53 PM   #6
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In Jr. High woodshop class I built a functioning replica of a medieval crossbow (illegal in New York State at the time) I got an A.

and another thing, I can't stand intolerance.

As I'm typing this my son comes up to me to tell me that a million of his soldiers are fighting 3 robots who are bionic, nuclear (not nucular) and "dynamitish"
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:54 PM   #7
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OTOH, thank goodness there's zero tolerance for kids having sex in schools: we don't want them learning how to use sex as a weapon. Add that to the list.
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:57 PM   #8
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Well, that policy forgot to ban one very important weapon. The students themselves.

With good training, any human being can use his own body as a weapon, sometimes a letal one.
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:15 PM   #9
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That's not the policy. That's just a list of suggestions to consider. but I like your way of thinking. Are they allowed to bring legs to school if they promise not to kick anyone?
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:32 PM   #10
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:44 PM   #11
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:07 PM   #12
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I was watching the The men who stare at goats a couple of nights ago, then followed up by checking out the website of the book it was based on. According to the author's website, the military in this particular section have a weapon which looks perfectly harmless (like a bottle opener from what I could see), but can be used for a myriad of pain inducing techniques including twisting fingers and more worryingly inserting it into someone's ear canal which leaves no visible damage, but causes a huge amount of pain. I'm guessing this kind 2nd one could easily be done with a pencil or pen as well...I don't think this generation would be the first to use their writing implements as weapons.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:33 PM   #13
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Everything is a weapon.
Hell we used to play a game where someone would name an object and the rest of us would think of ways to kill a person with the object.
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:53 PM   #14
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:11 AM   #15
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In the movie About a Boy, the bullies torment the main character by throwing sweets at him.
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