$75 for a 14 hour day?

[Shawnee123]

yeah, I've been neglecting bringing it up...but one of my dad's buddies told him that they'd often spend the afternoon in the bar. Mornings were coffee, newspaper, sometimes cards if a machine "broke down." My dad liked the guy, but that shit pissed him right off. That isn't the only horse's mouth story I've heard.

I've argued before that the Japs have it right: the area (and there are a few in Ohio) Honda plants pay a decent wage, and the folks have to work for it. They are sustaining. People are making a living wage. There have been NO layoffs in all this time. They plan. They use their freaking heads. Do their employees have 3 motorcycles and an RV bigger than most people's homes? Maybe not, but they're damn happy to be there.

No one dared bitch about the auto unions. Those guys were too big and tough. But the bitch at the DMV who's making 30 grand a year putting up with the public's bellyaching bullshit? She's fair game.

You know what's happened to the economy here, Bri. You're right, the biggest cause, the big ripple...all come from the same place. The model was not sustainable.

And Sam I am so so so sorry for the threadjack.