Why am I fat? Because my self-esteem is crushed.

Undertoad · 03-01-2011, 09:11 AM

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...rges/?emc=eta1

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Do you treat yourself as well as you treat your friends and family?

That simple question is the basis for a burgeoning new area of psychological research called self-compassion — how kindly people view themselves. People who find it easy to be supportive and understanding to others, it turns out, often score surprisingly low on self-compassion tests, berating themselves for perceived failures like being overweight or not exercising.

The research suggests that giving ourselves a break and accepting our imperfections may be the first step toward better health. People who score high on tests of self-compassion have less depression and anxiety, and tend to be happier and more optimistic. Preliminary data suggest that self-compassion can even influence how much we eat and may help some people lose weight.

This is it. This is the WHOLE GODDAMN THING. It's not about fast food. It's not about the dumb food pyramid. It's not about high fructose corn syrup. It's not about not knowing what to eat. It's not about what foods are cheap.

It's about being a broken human being. It's about being self-destructive. Why be healthy when you feel worthless?

jimhelm · 03-01-2011, 09:46 AM

ah... go have a cheeseburger and forget it

footfootfoot · 03-01-2011, 10:25 AM

It's a viscous cycle. 75W90

Trilby · 03-01-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhelm

ah... go have a cheeseburger and forget it

FIRST a fifth of vodka, THEN the cheeseburger.

Sundae · 03-01-2011, 12:11 PM

Great.
Now I'm not just fat I am broken also.

Just call me Humpty Dumpty.

Shawnee123 · 03-01-2011, 12:22 PM

Well don't drink diet soda. It just shoves you further into the blackhole that is addiction.

Probably if you drink a lot of water too. Or, you're addicted to breathing air.

Buncha addicts.

Clodfobble · 03-01-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

It's about being a broken human being. It's about being self-destructive. Why be healthy when you feel worthless?

But what if... I'm not saying it's like this for everybody, but I know from experience it's like this for me... what if, just like drinking alcohol can affect your emotional and mental state, eating food that's bad for you can, in fact, make you feel worthless? Not just because you ate the food and you've been taught to feel guilty about that, but because we're really just a bag of chemical reactions when you get right down to it, and it turns out that chemical A results in neurological state B?

For my money, the chain is: the type of food we eat directly affects our emotional/psychological state, and that state then affects how much of the food we continue to eat, which then leads to the weight gain. It's like no one can take just a little heroin, you know? And why bother to take less heroin when you feel worthless? But if you could really break the cycle and were taking no heroin at all...

Flint · 03-01-2011, 04:29 PM

Boooo!! Boooo!! We God-fearing, Hummer-driving Americans are SICK of this hippie bullcrap about how food affects the human body or whatever. Food is just a flavor that you chew up and swallow--your body doesn’t care what it is! A bag of potato chips fills you up just as well as a cheeseburger, doesn’t it? And what is chemical reactions anyway? Some made-up “science” stuff that they lie to your kids to get ‘em to turn gay. Or muslim. I don’t know which is worse. I sure as hell ain’t believe in no neurological whatsit is because I didn’t eat enough rabbit food for the Obama hitler vegan satan atheist faggots from "Jew York" city. Who hate America.

Undertoad · 03-01-2011, 04:36 PM

I suspect you're right.

At the same time, it flips: the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is. This is proven time and time again.

Spexxvet · 03-02-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is.

You'll feel better right up until you can't fit through the door.

footfootfoot · 03-02-2011, 12:37 PM

HungLikeJesus · 03-02-2011, 03:31 PM

I only eat from the top of the food pyramid, because the top of a pyramid is still a pyramid. The bottom of the food pyramid is the food trapezoid, and that can't be good for you.

glatt · 03-02-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

I only eat from the top of the food pyramid, because the top of a pyramid is still a pyramid. The bottom of the food pyramid is the food trapezoid, and that can't be good for you.

Then you are eating a healthy diet, albeit a small one, because the new food pyramid is proportional from top to bottom.

Pico and ME · 03-02-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I suspect you're right.

At the same time, it flips: the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is. This is proven time and time again.

Have you ever seriously followed a really balanced and healthy diet long enough to know the difference?

Undertoad · 03-02-2011, 11:14 PM

My own experience doesn't count as it would be anecdotal by definition.

03-01-2011, 09:46 AM	#2
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	ah... go have a cheeseburger and forget it __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

03-01-2011, 10:25 AM	#3
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	It's a viscous cycle. 75W90 __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-01-2011, 12:22 PM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Well don't drink diet soda. It just shoves you further into the blackhole that is addiction. Probably if you drink a lot of water too. Or, you're addicted to breathing air. Buncha addicts. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-01-2011, 04:29 PM	#8
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Boooo!! Boooo!! We God-fearing, Hummer-driving Americans are SICK of this hippie bullcrap about how food affects the human body or whatever. Food is just a flavor that you chew up and swallow--your body doesn’t care what it is! A bag of potato chips fills you up just as well as a cheeseburger, doesn’t it? And what is chemical reactions anyway? Some made-up “science” stuff that they lie to your kids to get ‘em to turn gay. Or muslim. I don’t know which is worse. I sure as hell ain’t believe in no neurological whatsit is because I didn’t eat enough rabbit food for the Obama hitler vegan satan atheist faggots from "Jew York" city. Who hate America. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-02-2011, 12:37 PM	#11
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	__________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

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Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Great. Now I'm not just fat I am broken also. Just call me Humpty Dumpty.

03-01-2011, 04:36 PM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I suspect you're right. At the same time, it flips: the mind/body connection is so strong that if you believe the food you're eating is good for you, you will feel better, no matter what its actual nutritional value is. This is proven time and time again.

03-02-2011, 03:31 PM	#12
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I only eat from the top of the food pyramid, because the top of a pyramid is still a pyramid. The bottom of the food pyramid is the food trapezoid, and that can't be good for you. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-02-2011, 11:14 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	My own experience doesn't count as it would be anecdotal by definition.

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