Ella Fitzgerald -- Billie Holiday

footfootfoot · 02-25-2011, 11:36 AM

Discuss. Compare and contrast.

Shawnee123 · 02-25-2011, 11:47 AM

Ella...scat?
Billie...no scat?

Griff · 02-25-2011, 11:51 AM

Ella no drugs?
Billie all drugs.

smoothmoniker · 02-25-2011, 12:03 PM

Ella is one of the most brilliant vocal technicians to ever grab a mic. She blows an 8 chorus scat solo on "How High The Moon" where the band drops out, no pitch reference, she changes keys twice, and then hits the final shout chorus with the band dropping in, perfectly in key. That's an amazing feat. Ella thought about voice like Louis Armstrong thought about the trumpet. She was convinced it could do more, be more powerful anyone had used it before, and she set about proving it.

glatt · 02-25-2011, 12:05 PM

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smoothmoniker · 02-25-2011, 12:08 PM

Billie Holiday was, in many ways, the pre-cursor to the rock star artist of the 1960s. Her self-destruction was real, but it was also cultivated as part of her image. She was pathos, the tortured artist, and it adds a poignant beauty to everything she sang. Take a listen to Bing Crosby singing "I'll Be Seeing You", it's wartime sugar-pop sap, and you know that whoever he's singing to will be coming home, Bing's just waiting it out for a while. Then listen to Holiday sing it, and it is a heart-wrenching ballad - whoever she's singing to is gone, and Billie is going to be haunted by them every moment of her life.

"Strange Fruit" is one of the bravest things an artist has ever done.

Griff · 02-25-2011, 12:52 PM

That is one of the most powerful songs ever recorded.

smoothmoniker · 02-25-2011, 06:51 PM

Yes.

Sheldonrs · 02-28-2011, 12:14 PM

I love them both but Ella always makes me smile when i listen to her.
There is always a bit of sadness when i listen to Billie, because I always think of the tough life she had.
I think I was about 14 or 15 when i read her auto-biography.

Gravdigr · 03-01-2011, 05:00 AM

Ella: Scat

Billie: Smak.

sullage · 03-02-2011, 07:20 PM

i sometimes have trouble believing the sounds inga swearingen makes aren't synth

02-25-2011, 11:36 AM	#1
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02-25-2011, 11:47 AM	#2
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Ella...scat? Billie...no scat? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-25-2011, 11:51 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Ella no drugs? Billie all drugs. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-25-2011, 12:03 PM	#4
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Ella is one of the most brilliant vocal technicians to ever grab a mic. She blows an 8 chorus scat solo on "How High The Moon" where the band drops out, no pitch reference, she changes keys twice, and then hits the final shout chorus with the band dropping in, perfectly in key. That's an amazing feat. Ella thought about voice like Louis Armstrong thought about the trumpet. She was convinced it could do more, be more powerful anyone had used it before, and she set about proving it. __________________ to live and die in LA

02-25-2011, 12:05 PM	#5
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02-25-2011, 12:08 PM	#6
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Billie Holiday was, in many ways, the pre-cursor to the rock star artist of the 1960s. Her self-destruction was real, but it was also cultivated as part of her image. She was pathos, the tortured artist, and it adds a poignant beauty to everything she sang. Take a listen to Bing Crosby singing "I'll Be Seeing You", it's wartime sugar-pop sap, and you know that whoever he's singing to will be coming home, Bing's just waiting it out for a while. Then listen to Holiday sing it, and it is a heart-wrenching ballad - whoever she's singing to is gone, and Billie is going to be haunted by them every moment of her life. "Strange Fruit" is one of the bravest things an artist has ever done. __________________ to live and die in LA

02-25-2011, 12:52 PM	#7
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	That is one of the most powerful songs ever recorded. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

02-25-2011, 06:51 PM	#8
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Yes. __________________ to live and die in LA

02-28-2011, 12:14 PM	#9
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	I love them both but Ella always makes me smile when i listen to her. There is always a bit of sadness when i listen to Billie, because I always think of the tough life she had. I think I was about 14 or 15 when i read her auto-biography. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

03-01-2011, 05:00 AM	#10
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03-02-2011, 07:20 PM	#11
sullage Master Locutor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 155	i sometimes have trouble believing the sounds inga swearingen makes aren't synth

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