Wild West Politics?

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

There is no psychological test for gun ownership because that would be unthinkable. At some point in time there will be enough genetic markers found for schizophrenia that it can be tested for with a cheek swab. Until the time as such a test is affordable, we will have to wait.

Your argument is ridiculous. There are people being treated for schizophrenia right now. How were those people diagnosed? Do you think their doctors should wait for a genetic test?

If the Washington Times can already predict that the shooter is a nutcase, then the state could have known at the time he bought the gun.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by glatt

I'm sorry footfootfoot, I just can't do it. Even with an insult to respond to.

What's wrong with me?

More like, why are you addressing 3 foot?

And, don't throw self defeating statements to the wind.

You're just a damn nice guy.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Classicman intentionally tried to post my personal information in order to encourage harm to me. If you did not know it, he was stopped by (I believe) UT. Why?

Total Lie - I spoke up because you made uncalled for, unfounded accusations of another posters wife being a "gonorrhea dripping whore." No one else was going to call you out for your bullshit, so I did.

And for your information, after you were banned for your emotional metdown, I contacted a mod and asked them to reconsider out of pity for your sorry existence of a life. Stick that in your Honda and drive it straight up your fat ass. (Too bad it isn't a 4WD)

FWIW - I didn't need to be stopped because I don't know who you are, nor do I want to.
Just so we are all clear on the facts, not simply your emotional delusions of reality.

[DanaC]

Shit got real

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I see the problem with guns, is the same as with cars, most of the people that have them don't know how to handle them properly. Lack of knowledge, training and practice, under the assumption they are competent until they prove otherwise.

So, given that guns are here to stay, perhaps we should have gun-ed in school? And no, I'm not being facetious. Maybe then the non-gun-people would be less scared, the pro-gun-people would be less gung-ho and everyone would have a chance of handling weapons better in a crisis. just like driver's ed.

Driver's Ed is not a part of the curriculum in the UK, but cars are not such a big part of life. Having lived here a while, shocked as i still am about how young they can drive, I appreciate that it's considered a universal skill that should be part of schooling in many places. Maybe we should afford guns the same treatment.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by tw

Wow. Vaccinations did that much damage?

This is the kind of petty shit that made me realize the cellar isn't what it was. Maybe it is, but it certainly isn't the kind of place i need to spend the kind of time i once did. the fact statements are accepted and/or ignored says a lot about the evolution of the cellar. the issues don't matter so long as we can shit on a few people and regurgitate our well known position pieces, right?

[skysidhe]

you got it about right , seems so anyway

[Nirvana]

See I said this thread belonged in Politics

[Nirvana]

BTW what a mug shot this guy has! YIKES!

[monster]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

See I said this thread belonged in Politics

Not worthy of politics.

Where's the bitching/sniping forum when you need it?

[monster]

Originally Posted by sexobon

I think you're projecting your own inabilities to process relevant information under such circumstances, to make timely and accurate judgment calls, on others. That's not an uncommon trait in the elderly.

Weren't some of the victims elderly? And one nine?

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this is repeating anything someone else has said:

What is the difference between the revolutionary violent rhetoric in those banners and
the banners being waved in London by muslims protesting against the Dutch cartoons?

To my mind there are major conceptual differences.
The US demonstrators are protesting their government,
while the Muslims are defending their religious faith.

They both invoke images of blood and violence because, for each,
their beliefs are absolute... and not to be compromised.

It seems in politics that we in the US tend to impose a technical and political view
on to others when theirs is first a religion and then a way of governing.

So between Shite and Sunni, their first differences are religious,
but the former superimpose religion on government,
while the latter tend to more independent government.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by monster

So, given that guns are here to stay, perhaps we should have gun-ed in school? And no, I'm not being facetious. Maybe then the non-gun-people would be less scared, the pro-gun-people would be less gung-ho and everyone would have a chance of handling weapons better in a crisis. just like driver's ed.

Driver's Ed is not a part of the curriculum in the UK, but cars are not such a big part of life. Having lived here a while, shocked as i still am about how young they can drive, I appreciate that it's considered a universal skill that should be part of schooling in many places. Maybe we should afford guns the same treatment.

If they tried to include teaching about guns, even in say a science class, half the parents would have a shitfit.
I'd like to see more rigorous qualifications for carry permits. Locally, they have started to require a sign off by a certified range instructor, but that varies by jurisdiction.

As for driver's ed in school, when I took it, it was a joke, mostly memorizing the answers for the exam. I doubt it's gotten any better, and many schools have dropped it because of budgets.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by DanaC

What is the difference between the revolutionary violent rhetoric in those banners and the banners being waved in London by muslims protesting against the Dutch cartoons?

The banners are selected from all the protests everywhere over time. The people holding them are on the fringe of their groups rather than the mainstream.

[DanaC]

You think the people waving banners calling for the murder of the cartoonist were 'mainstream'?