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[DanaC]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Hmmmm.... I guess we just have different experiences in life. Because I find it to be pretty accurate. Guys keep things separate. Women do not. IMHO. I have heard it over and over all my life. My wife was in a predominately male dominated job the first 10 years we were married, I am in a predominately female dominated job and specialize in womens health. I find it to be pretty accurate and so did my wife. Men and women deal with conflict very differently. Men compartmentalize emotions more often. But as I said from the outset, we may have just had different life experiences. It does not make either one of us wrong.

Sorry. I just get pissed off by some of the scienctific studies that get trotted out around this stuff, that basically try to suggest these differences are all innate. They're not. They're a product of environment. Which means that they are not universal.

It strikes me also, that if you are in a predominately female profession, then it is a profession that will naturally lend itself to a particular skill set which we nost normally class as feminine: consequently more traditionally feminine women are likely to be in that area of work. By the same token, if an occupation is predominately male, then it is likely to make use of, and therefore attract a traditionally masculine skillset and therefore will be full of traditionally masculine men.

Steroetypes often do apply, that's how they become stereotypes. But they are exaggerated to the point where they become a lie. Large numbers of women and large numbers of men would find themselves somewhat excluded from those jokes if they were told to a truly representative segment of gender character types.

I just get a little pissed off. I get this shit fed back to me by people who genuinely believe that women are less capable of reason than men, because they are more emotional creatures.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Sorry. I just get pissed off by some of the scienctific studies that get trotted out around this stuff, that basically try to suggest these differences are all innate. They're not. They're a product of environment. Which means that they are not universal.

I agree generally but I do think that some of the observations as differences between the sexes have merit on general terms.

It strikes me also, that if you are in a predominately female profession, then it is a profession that will naturally lend itself to a particular skill set which we nost normally class as feminine: consequently more traditionally feminine women are likely to be in that area of work. By the same token, if an occupation is predominately male, then it is likely to make use of, and therefore attract a traditionally masculine skillset and therefore will be full of traditionally masculine men.

Yes. And it is interesting to both me and my wife, being opposite sexes in other sex predominate professions, that many of these observations are in fact true. But I don't see it as a block to advancement or function in various jobs. I only note the biggest difference seen by both of us is how men and women generally deal with conflict.

Steroetypes often do apply, that's how they become stereotypes. But they are exaggerated to the point where they become a lie. Large numbers of women and large numbers of men would find themselves somewhat excluded from those jokes if they were told to a truly representative segment of gender character types.

I don't know that I agree they become a lie, more that they become overly exaggerated.

I just get a little pissed off. I get this shit fed back to me by people who genuinely believe that women are less capable of reason than men, because they are more emotional creatures.

Well as a father of two grown daughters and a wife with a professional degreee, I don't believe that.

[Lamplighter]

Well as a father of two grown daughters and a wife with a professional degreee, I don't believe that.

That's a unique appeal to authority ! Don't think I've ever used that one.

Of course as a father of THREE grown daughters and....
Ummm, never mind

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

That's a unique appeal to authority ! Don't think I've ever used that one.

Of course as a father of THREE grown daughters and....
Ummm, never mind

And where is a "unique appeal to authority!" being exercised? Please explain....

[Lamplighter]

As I said, I've not before used the number of daughters, their age, or my wife's college attainments
as a way to convince others that my beliefs are correct.

But since I have 3 daughters and you have only 2, my authority must therefore be higher than yours. Right ?

On the other hand, it probably is like a bad joke...
if you have to explain it, it ain't funny.

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I just get a little pissed off. I get this shit fed back to me by people who genuinely believe that women are less capable of reason than men, because they are more emotional creatures.

You get pissed off because you are an emotional creature?

[jinx]

Pow! To the moon, alice.

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by jinx

Pow! To the moon, alice.

Hi jinx. That made me laugh.