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Old 01-04-2011, 08:28 AM   #1
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I'm not sure how the subject changed from 4WD to rollover accidents, but here is the story:

http://montgomerynews.com/articles/2...1461385270.txt

It only specifies 2001 GMC and so it was probably the full-time AWD Sierra.

The crash happened at 8 in the morning so we are guessing all-nighter to get to FL for Xmas and the driver fell asleep.

But what lesson is there? Whilst searching for the story I found this crash story, in which the single driver does nearly the exact same thing: drives off the right hand side of the road, then over-corrects. And the vehicle, which is a 1997 Mercury, not a truck, does not roll over. Instead it flies into the median and hits a tree. Killing her instantly.

From my experience driving various vehicles, I would far rather be in the Sierra than the Mercury. And so would the occupants of the Sierra, none of whom were killed instantly (one died later), and one of whom left the scene without a scratch.

I'm guessing that if I were driving the Sierra I would not have over-corrected, but in the Merc I might have. The big bubble tires and high clearance on the truck mean you can handle being in the rough a little bit. I once nearly lost a Mazda 323, not because I drove it off the road, but off the 1" edge of an exit ramp. The skinny tires caught the edge and nearly pulled the wheel out of my hands due to FWD torque steer. Unsafe at any speed.
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:18 AM   #2
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I'm guessing that if I were driving the Sierra I would not have over-corrected, but in the Merc I might have. The big bubble tires and high clearance on the truck mean you can handle being in the rough a little bit.
So why were failing Firestone tires causing so many rollovers and overcorrecting on big SUVs? And not on cars?

What makes crashes so deadly? Roll overs. Which vehilces roll over most because they are so danagerous? Four wheel drives that are too high, unstable, and that also have wheels fightinng each other. Facts are that SUVs are the most dangerous passenger cars. And need all kinds of additional safety equipment because they are so dangerous. The last vehicle an informed passenger wants to be in on icy roads is the four wheel drive. But that is not what most believe because a newsroom bimbo recommends four wheel drives.

Same newsroom bimbos also recommend those back saver snow shovels that are so bad for the back.
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:26 AM   #3
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Car Guys were also discussing another SUV - a Jeep. Its steering so bad that a shock absorber must be attached. Without the shock absorber, the wheels can vibrate violently. Their conclusion was that Jeep's steering 'shock absorber' needed to be replaced.

No safe vehicle has such badly designed steering. Klick and Klack defined the Jeep's suspension as "barbaric". Of course. You don't buy such vehicles for safety. But it can be hyped 'safe' to those who know despite facts. They defined a Jeep' suspension and steering as barbaric.

So why is Obama black?
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:26 AM   #4
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Same newsroom bimbos also recommend those back saver snow shovels that are so bad for the back.
And these:

edit: I always thought something similar to the jerk glasses (crossed-eye effect) would happen with those shoes with the springs in them. In a couple years there would be an epidemic of people walking around all wobbly-spring-legged, like newborn foals.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:28 AM   #5
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edit: I always thought something similar to the jerk glasses (crossed-eye effect) would happen with those shoes with the springs in them. In a couple years there would be an epidemic of people walking around all wobbly-spring-legged, like newborn foals.
No problem. Put magnets in those shoes. That will also cure cancer.
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